Newsome ending death penalty in California (2014, crime rate, movies)

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

That's a laugh, Tulemutt. I'd guess that 95% of the people who post here don't even believe in Him, let alone think about what He'd do. And, I'm being generous about the 5%.

It was worth a shot.

You know, I’ve made no secret about being an atheist myself ... but, I’ll tell you one of the most profound quotes I’ve ever heard from history is that attributed to Christ on the cross when he is said to have looked to the heavens and uttered:

“Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.”

Truer words never spoken.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by pacific2

"This site says...

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to
Tulemutt again."

It’s the thought that counts, bub

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by Finper

Fine with me as long as they close San Quentin and put the killers in general population. Let justice and retribution be done there. Save us all a lot of money in lawyers.

That's the plan.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

The governor is right about one thing. It costs more to put someone to death than it does to house them in prison. https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

The downside is the families of those 737 people on death row will not be happy. I can think of one in particular and cannot wait to hear what they have to say about it.

I know what you are saying but I'm not sure how you get closure from someone dying

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by ambient

Not sure I agree. Yes, death penalty may seem barbaric, but if someone is going to inflict barbaric acts of murder on other innocent people, then I don't know why we should go easy on them.

I don't think life in prison is going easy on someone.

[pacific2]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

It’s the thought that counts, bub

Right, but it's bubbett, not bub.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

It was worth a shot.

You know, I’ve made no secret about being an atheist myself ... but, I’ll tell you one of the most profound quotes I’ve ever heard from history is that attributed to Christ on the cross when he is said to have looked to the heavens and uttered:

“Forgive them Father, they know not what they do.”

Truer words never spoken.

I'll say. Not only that. Everything He said is the Truth.

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

I know what you are saying but I'm not sure how you get closure from someone dying

You don't get closure. I've said for years that it's a word made up by psychiatrists so they can justify charging you $150/hr. Proof of that is a conversation I had with a gentleman after he attended an execution of the man that murdered his daughter. He told me he thought he would finally get closure but there was nothing. Still the emptiness in his heart. I've been hoping since the late 80's that the DP would be abolished. One, for the reason I just stated. Second, it's far more costly to go through Appeals and writs of Habeas Corpus and third, there have been too many executed who were, in fact, innocent of the crime. Not only that, it hasn't been a deterrent to stop people from killing.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by pacific2

Right, but it's bubbett, not bub.

Duly noted and recorded ... won’t happen again ...

[Ceece]

I don't think the death penalty is barbaric, but it is costly. Then again, anyone who qualifies for the death penalty needs to be locked up forever and that means being cared for until they die by the taxpayers of CA. Is being locked up forever barbaric too? Some say yes, and that's where we part ways.

[w_mcfly22]

Jus give the worst of the worst free hot meals, medical and dental. That’ll show em SMH.
If want to get rid of the death penalty then also get rid of protective custody...