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Old 12-08-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada
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The Laughlin area. And that spills over into Lake Havasu in Arizona

I am curious as to the climate of the Elko area. Its not exactly desert like southern half of Nevada, and its not too far north like Montana. Its probably like SLC. Its halfway between SLC and Reno too.
Hi,
I'm from Northern Nevada and noticed this post.

Elko has grown tremendously in the past 2 decades and can be an outdoor paradise with the Ruby Wilderness nearby. I currently live in the Carson City area, but spent alot of summers in Elko and have considered retiring out there sometimes as the housing can be a great deal and there is less population to contend with. Although Carson City is a fantastic city to live in so not sure about moving from my beloved town.

Elko can get really cold in the winter, colder than Reno/Carson City by far and definitely harsher than SLC. It does not get heavy cloud cover and gray for long periods like Montana in the winter. Sunshine abounds. If you are a hunter or like to fish...fantastic place to be. Definitely very libertarian and anti-government sentiment abounds...you take care of yourself there.

When my grandparents lived there, they would go to SLC for major shopping trips, not Reno.

You would definitely have to be OK with WINTER though. It does get more snow than CC also. One factor I do not remember is the wind there. The wind is a constant here in Northern Nevada, but not as harsh as Wyoming or Montana from what hear.

If you are looking for similar in Nevada with less harsh winters then Dayton, Fallon, Smith Valley are good places to look at. They are smaller with less harsh weather and more affordable housing options. Carson City/Minden are fantastic quality of life wise, but harsher weather here. Not as harsh as Elko though.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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Hi,
I'm from Northern Nevada and noticed this post.

Elko has grown tremendously in the past 2 decades and can be an outdoor paradise with the Ruby Wilderness nearby. I currently live in the Carson City area, but spent alot of summers in Elko and have considered retiring out there sometimes as the housing can be a great deal and there is less population to contend with. Although Carson City is a fantastic city to live in so not sure about moving from my beloved town.

Elko can get really cold in the winter, colder than Reno/Carson City by far and definitely harsher than SLC. It does not get heavy cloud cover and gray for long periods like Montana in the winter. Sunshine abounds. If you are a hunter or like to fish...fantastic place to be. Definitely very libertarian and anti-government sentiment abounds...you take care of yourself there.

When my grandparents lived there, they would go to SLC for major shopping trips, not Reno.

You would definitely have to be OK with WINTER though. It does get more snow than CC also. One factor I do not remember is the wind there. The wind is a constant here in Northern Nevada, but not as harsh as Wyoming or Montana from what hear.

If you are looking for similar in Nevada with less harsh winters then Dayton, Fallon, Smith Valley are good places to look at. They are smaller with less harsh weather and more affordable housing options. Carson City/Minden are fantastic quality of life wise, but harsher weather here. Not as harsh as Elko though.
Thanks for this information. Do you know if healthcare services have kept pace with the population increase over the last two decades or do residents have to go to Reno or SLC for specialists and better options for services?
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada
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Thanks for this information. Do you know if healthcare services have kept pace with the population increase over the last two decades or do residents have to go to Reno or SLC for specialists and better options for services?

That I am not sure...there is a large mining community there now and a fair number of retirees so medical care must be available locally...I do know my in-laws in Fallon have to come into Carson City for certain specialist type care...Carson City and Reno have excellent hospitals.

One thing I do know is that some specialists travel and have satellite offices in some of the more far-flung communities in Nevada.

GAH! OK, just checked on Wellington (Smith Valley) and Dayton and they are not so affordable anymore...gee whiz! Check out Yerington also maybe...Lovelock is closer to Reno also, but not much to choose from there...

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Old 12-08-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Reno-Sparks housing and rents have skyrocketed. It isn’t in line with wages. Elko is a small town dependent on mining.
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Old 12-14-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: California
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Who cares about Nevada? In my opinion, Nevada is the worst state in America for a multitude of reasons. I cannot, for the life of me, imagine why any American in their right mind would willingly choose to live in or relocate to Nevada.

First and foremost, Nevada is the driest, most barren state in the nation. In other words, Nevada is the ugliest state in America with the least sustainable water supply. For the record, Nevada has the most limited riparian rights to the Colorado River relative to other southwestern states because it had the lowest population in 1922 when the Colorado River Compact was initially executed. FYI, you cannot extract water from an alkali sink — LOL.

Secondly, the enormous presence of the gaming industry within the state, which features slot machines in gas stations and grocery stores, even in “upscale” neighborhoods, makes every regular business establishment feel and appear to be sleazy and low-class.

Do not even get me started on legal prostitution and the enormous social implications thereof, such as rape, sex trafficking, etc.

When a state’s three most prominent industries are gaming, hospitality and prostitution/sex, wages are bound to be desperately low, and most employers will not offer any non-wage benefits to their employees, such as medical insurance, for example. Therefore, most people in Nevada are underemployed or just plain broke with no health insurance coverage to boot.

However, even if higher-paying industries had a stronger foothold in Nevada, which they never will, most of the state’s population would not even qualify for employment in those industries, since Nevada’s population has the lowest rate of educational attainment of any state in America.

Low educational attainment rates often spur poor child and adolescent outcomes. Of course, due to all of the above in addition to the highest rates of violent crime and the highest rates of cigarette smoking among adults, Nevada has the poorest child outcomes of any state in the country, with the major metropolitan areas of Las Vegas and Reno leading the pack. Unfortunately, poor people in America are much more likely to be single parents than wealthy or middle-income people and, therefore, more likely to provide low supervision to their children, expose their children to cigarette smoke, employ the use of corporal punishment, etc.

Adding insult to injury, Nevada recently became a majority-minority state, with visible minorities claiming over 50% of the state’s total population. Obviously, this population shift was largely the result of domestic migration from neighboring California and illegal immigration from Mexico. If California in 2019 is any indication, having a population and, more significantly, an electorate that is mostly composed of non-white immigrants and their American-born children, then it is very easy to infer that those people have priorities and values that are highly disparate from the average multigenerational American.

And finally, one of the worst aspects of Nevada as a state, is the fact that only one-quarter of Nevada’s population was born within the state, which is the lowest percentage of native-born residence of any state in America. Many of the issues referenced above are the direct or indirect result of population transience.

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Old 12-15-2019, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Who cares about Nevada? In my opinion, Nevada is the worst state in America for a multitude of reasons. I cannot, for the life of me, imagine why any American in their right mind would willingly choose to live in or relocate to Nevada.
Well that was quite the rant

Depending on what you consider a good or bad place to live, Nevada is as far from the worst place to live in my opinion and I think LV is one of the better places due to lower cost of living compared to larger coastal cities, along with many entertainment options.

I don't have a problem with the desert myself in fact I really don't like humidity so the climate is better for people who prefer dryer warmer air.

I also don't have a problem with people gambling or drinking or having sex or smoking cigarettes/cigars/pipes/weed if that's what they want do to....it's their life so why is it my business what they choose to do? And rape and sex trafficing happens all over the US - where prostitution is banned and always has been.

I suppose if I wanted to live in a religious theocracy, then I probably wouldn't choose Nevada.
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Old 12-15-2019, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Who cares about Nevada? In my opinion, Nevada is the worst state in America for a multitude of reasons. I cannot, for the life of me, imagine why any American in their right mind would willingly choose to live in or relocate to Nevada.
That reflects the fact that the largest group of us came from CA.

I moved over climate conditions from the CA coastal plain to Las Vegas. Tired of the daily gloom and the cold evenings.

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First and foremost, Nevada is the driest, most barren state in the nation. In other words, Nevada is the ugliest state in America with the least sustainable water supply. For the record, Nevada has the most limited riparian rights to the Colorado River relative to other southwestern states because it had the lowest population in 1922 when the Colorado River Compact was initially executed. FYI, you cannot extract water from an alkali sink — LOL.
NV has more than sufficient water. Las Vegas can easily grow to 3 million or so. And note tht the big guy in Colorado River water is CA which wastes more than NV uses.

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Secondly, the enormous presence of the gaming industry within the state, which features slot machines in gas stations and grocery stores, even in “upscale” neighborhoods, makes every regular business establishment feel and appear to be sleazy and low-class.

Do not even get me started on legal prostitution and the enormous social implications thereof, such as rape, sex trafficking, etc.

When a state’s three most prominent industries are gaming, hospitality and prostitution/sex, wages are bound to be desperately low, and most employers will not offer any non-wage benefits to their employees, such as medical insurance, for example. Therefore, most people in Nevada are underemployed or just plain broke with no health insurance coverage to boot.
Prostitution of the legal sort is a nothing. The illegal prostitution in Las Vegas or LA is vastly greater.

Gaming workers are generally well paid and have good health benefits. NV as a whole pays reasonably well. Las Vegas for instance has higher wages than does Dallas.

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However, even if higher-paying industries had a stronger foothold in Nevada, which they never will, most of the state’s population would not even qualify for employment in those industries, since Nevada’s population has the lowest rate of educational attainment of any state in America.
Boy did you get that one wrong. The bottom state in education is...wait for it...California. That is based on the percentage of high school graduates in the population. NV is a good bit better than CA.

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Low educational attainment rates often spur poor child and adolescent outcomes. Of course, due to all of the above in addition to the highest rates of violent crime and the highest rates of cigarette smoking among adults, Nevada has the poorest child outcomes of any state in the country, with the major metropolitan areas of Las Vegas and Reno leading the pack. Unfortunately, poor people in America are much more likely to be single parents than wealthy or middle-income people and, therefore, more likely to provide low supervision to their children, expose their children to cigarette smoke, employ the use of corporal punishment, etc.
Violent crime in NV is middle of the pack. Las Vegas is better than virtually all of the rust belt.

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Adding insult to injury, Nevada recently became a majority-minority state, with visible minorities claiming over 50% of the state’s total population. Obviously, this population shift was largely the result of domestic migration from neighboring California and illegal immigration from Mexico. If California in 2019 is any indication, having a population and, more significantly, an electorate that is mostly composed of non-white immigrants and their American-born children, then it is very easy to infer that those people have priorities and values that are highly disparate from the average multigenerational American.

And finally, one of the worst aspects of Nevada as a state, is the fact that only one-quarter of Nevada’s population was born within the state, which is the lowest percentage of native-born residence of any state in America. Many of the issues referenced above are the direct or indirect result of population transience.
That may actually be a problem...the largest group of us came from California and you know how bad they are!!!
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Old 12-15-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Sierra Nevada
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Northern Nevada is high desert and a beautiful place to live. The Sierra Mountains run along our communities and there is so much water flowing down from the snow pack into the Great Basin rivers that form many lakes. I love that we have alpine lakes and desert lakes for great variety of recreation.

I actually think our rapes statistics are low here due to the legal establishments probably.

The economy here is booming with so many business' moving over from CA and yes, there are plenty of good jobs and a low cost of living in many ways.

I love that most of Nevada is managed by the BLM and so we have so many wilderness areas with little restrictions on recreation enjoyment and a ton of wildlife.

Carson City is a top 10 wildlife sanctuary!

I agree that Las Vegas can give Nevada some bad statistics, but I love Northern Nevada and those statistics don't apply here at all. I agree with the some of your concerns about what direction we have headed politically, but yeah all the out-of-staters have voted in ways that us natives are horrified by, but what can we do? We are such a great place to move to and live and they took advantage of that. Hoping our libertarian values will rub on on them eventually.
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Old 12-15-2019, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale
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Same thing happening in AZ... many plates from out of state, everyone trying to move here. Not because if just cold, you don't see plates from all northern states. Just those ostensibly ruled by Democrat majorities who've had their way unabated for years.

What's unclear is how many of those migrating here and to NV are those wanting a different way, or those who created the societal trash pile, got sick of the smell, and are looking to vote in all the politics that create a new one in AZ and NV. We'll see.
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Old 12-15-2019, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Northern Nevada is high desert and a beautiful place to live. The Sierra Mountains run along our communities and there is so much water flowing down from the snow pack into the Great Basin rivers that form many lakes. I love that we have alpine lakes and desert lakes for great variety of recreation.

I actually think our rapes statistics are low here due to the legal establishments probably.

The economy here is booming with so many business' moving over from CA and yes, there are plenty of good jobs and a low cost of living in many ways.

I love that most of Nevada is managed by the BLM and so we have so many wilderness areas with little restrictions on recreation enjoyment and a ton of wildlife.

Carson City is a top 10 wildlife sanctuary!

I agree that Las Vegas can give Nevada some bad statistics, but I love Northern Nevada and those statistics don't apply here at all. I agree with the some of your concerns about what direction we have headed politically, but yeah all the out-of-staters have voted in ways that us natives are horrified by, but what can we do? We are such a great place to move to and live and they took advantage of that. Hoping our libertarian values will rub on on them eventually.
Again be careful with all that lots of folk lore. For instance the Las Vegas violent crime rate is less than that of Reno.
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