They Said the Recall Was Going To Be A Circus... (Davis: crimes, hotels)

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

“Unfortunately, the real minimum wage is always zero, regardless of the laws, and that is the wage that many workers receive in the wake of the creation or escalation of a government-mandated minimum wage, because they lose their jobs or fail to find jobs when they enter the labor force. Making it illegal to pay less than a given amount does not make a worker’s productivity worth that amount—and, if it is not, that worker is unlikely to be employed.” -Thomas Sowell

All these folks dwelling on the out of context "zero minimum wage" thing are clearly unfamiliar with the Libertarian party platform which forever has included the same type of argument. It makes for a good soundbite with Elder because it allows team Newsom to avoid defending his job, something they don't want to do.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Astral_Weeks

If you read the article, the decision to not endorse is merely a GOP ploy to drive more GOP voters to the polls:
"A party endorsement would have given the chosen candidate the resources and infrastructure to support their campaign in the coming weeks. But it also would have given some voters a reason not to show up, delegates said."

Anything the Republican's concoct is a "ploy", but when team Newsom thugs kept big name Democrats off the ballot, it was a "strategy". To keep this move in perspective, the last time the governor (JOE Davis) was recalled, big name Republicans pushed hard to get Tom Mclintock to drop out and yet he still took in a sizeable number of votes. Since there's no real Democratic challenger this time though, it's a smart move to focus on ejecting Newsom instead of the second half of the ballot. There doesn't need to be a party endorsement in this election.

[evening sun]

I was going to vote no on the recall, but then I read about Newsom closing down the prison in Susanville, & consequently the training for inmates who fight fires. We need all the help we can get in battling fires, & Newsom doesn't seem to care that Norcal is burning, maybe as some counties lean R. So bye bye Gavin!!

[Nyfinestbxtf]

Originally Posted by HereOnMars

His popularity must be gaining because this recent interview popped up in my "recommended" videos. After watching it, he explains in full the comment about the minimum wage. He did a great job dealing with the journalists' questions. I think he could hold his own in a debate but we probably won't see that. Anyway, if anyone is interested, here's the video from the other day.

Title: With Larry Elder It's No Hold Barred As He Explains Why He Threw His Hat In The Recall


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQWc_ttA4n8

He will be a great governor for California.

[JGC97]

Originally Posted by Nyfinestbxtf

He will be a great governor for California.

LOL You're puttin' the cart before the horse, aren't you? I still have doubts that the governor will be recalled but anything can happen. We'll soon find out

I am curious about one thing, though. Why the AG worked so hard (yet failed) to keep Mr. Elder off the ballot.

[evening sun]

I don't care for Elder, I'm sick of so called celebrities from tv & radio thinking they are politicians.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by evening sun

I don't care for Elder, I'm sick of so called celebrities from tv & radio thinking they are politicians.

I'm more sick of the wealthy elite running things because they have money. Both parties have some extremely wealthy people, they all know each other and hang out no matter which party wins. It's disgusting.


Simply inheriting wealth doesn't make people intelligent or good leaders. People need to quit voting on party lines.

[Ma_Duce]

Newsom’s Recall Problem Is with Hispanic Voters


Two new independent polls on California’s September 14 recall election have a startling explanation for why Governor Gavin Newsom is in trouble. His support among minority communities is crumbling as issues such as crime, COVID restrictions, and a huge unemployment-benefits scandal dominate the race.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...spanic-voters/

With this revelation you can bet you will see more brown politicians pushing for his re election

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by evening sun

I was going to vote no on the recall, but then I read about Newsom closing down the prison in Susanville, & consequently the training for inmates who fight fires. We need all the help we can get in battling fires, & Newsom doesn't seem to care that Norcal is burning, maybe as some counties lean R. So bye bye Gavin!!

I was going to vote "no" on the recall too, but changed my mind a week or so ago after seeing his supporters obnoxious ads on TV.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by evening sun

I was going to vote no on the recall, but then I read about Newsom closing down the prison in Susanville, & consequently the training for inmates who fight fires. We need all the help we can get in battling fires, & Newsom doesn't seem to care that Norcal is burning, maybe as some counties lean R. So bye bye Gavin!!

Training inmate firefighters has become rather controversial. People who are sentenced for a felony and have no record of a prior serious or violent crimes don't serve their time in prison they serve their time in the jail of the county where they were sentenced. In the past there was a large pool of inmates in state prisons available to become firefighters now there aren't.

What would you do, just send out people who have committed very serious and usually violent crimes to fight fires or hire people to do the work, I mean if they want to escape they can just walk away. There will not be fewer firefighters in the future, there will simply be fewer inmate firefighters. What Newsom did do, to his credit, is to give inmate firefighters who have paroled the opportunity to work for CalFire. They have to have not committed any crimes since their release, but those who qualify can work for CalFire. There are a lot of people who feel that it wasn't fair to have inmates risk their lives for $1 an hour. Now the ones who qualify can get a great job with good benefits.

As far as the prison closing in Susanville, there are actually two prisons there - only one is closing CCC, it was mainly used for training inmate firefighters but since there are fewer inmates who qualify for fire camp there is adequate space in the Folsom fire fighter training program to accommodate them.