Centennial at Tejon: Housing project back on after new environmental agreements

[apple92680]

Centennial will be located in the far-west of the Antelope Valley. It will be almost equidistant from Palmdale/Lancaster, Santa Clarita and the south end of Bakersfield.

If no more hurdles pop up, the next step will be the widening of SR-138 from it's junction with I-5 at Gorman to the 14 from two lanes to 4 or 6. This will also provide a quick crossover route for those going from Central California and Northern California to Las Vegas and Arizona.

Finper may finally be able to sell her Antelope Valley property!

[Bill the Butcher]

Originally Posted by apple92680

Centennial will be located in the far-west of the Antelope Valley. It will be almost equidistant from Palmdale/Lancaster, Santa Clarita and the south end of Bakersfield.

Yep. Forgot about those areas. That will further widen the employment opportunities.

One of the other developments planned, Mountain Village, is interesting in that they plan for that community to be $1 million+ homes with two golf courses. I'm thinking that would be the last one to be built out. I believe that one is on the East side of the 5 opposite Frazier Park.

I am intrigued by the Centennial development in particular. I think it has potential given it's proximity to multiple job centers and higher elevation which is rare for Southern California. While in general I am anti new growth, the reality is I can wish for no new growth and stagnant population but in the end it's going to happen so might as well as make the best of the hand we are dealt.

[dontbelievehim]

You could probably fit 80k people in squaw valley, fresno county. It's high elevation and beautiful, too. I'd like to see it become central Californias answer to Palm springs. But knowing how things work here, we'd be lucky for it just to be a soulless, mini Irvine.

[V8 Vega]

There is no gas hookups to these houses and it gets cold up there on top of the Grapevine. Stupid Democrats want all green energy thats barely enough now and will be woefully inadaquet when electric cars start to sell.
Plus all these houses with all electricity also making the grid a joke even more than it is now. Plus when the wind blows and it blows a lot up there they turn the electricity off and you freeze to death.

[Des-Lab]

Originally Posted by dontbelievehim

squaw valley, fresno county.

Lotta grass up there. If you get my drift. Highway 180 was expanded, but the area is otherwise pretty remote and isolated and not really close to anything. I don't imagine much-if any-growth out there in the foreseeable future.

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

top of the Grapevine. Stupid Democrats want all green energy thats barely enough now and will be woefully inadaquet when electric cars start to sell.
Plus all these houses with all electricity also making the grid a joke even more than it is now. Plus when the wind blows and it blows a lot up there they turn the electricity off and you freeze to death.

I said it earlier and I'll say it again. No one is going to be be the skunk at the picnic and ask those questions, along with the water issue. The only things that matter are creating a few construction jobs and collecting the subsequent property taxes.

In a sane world, not a single new house, apartment, or condo should be built anywhere in CA until further notice because of this. There's already what? Thirty million straws in the proverbial bowl? What's another couple hundred thousand?

[dontbelievehim]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

Lotta grass up there. If you get my drift. Highway 180 was expanded, but the area is otherwise pretty remote and isolated and not really close to anything. I don't imagine much-if any-growth out there in the foreseeable future.



I said it earlier and I'll say it again. No one is going to be be the skunk at the picnic and ask those questions, along with the water issue. The only things that matter are creating a few construction jobs and collecting the subsequent property taxes.

In a sane world, not a single new house, apartment, or condo should be built anywhere in CA until further notice because of this. There's already what? Thirty million straws in the proverbial bowl? What's another couple hundred thousand?

There's less snow in squaw valley than the grapevine. That's good for commuters and businesses. Squaw valley is half the size of Fresno proper, there's plenty of space to put condos there.
80k max population is nothing and could be filled up quickly. You build it up like a resort town to get attention(See Palm springs/Scottsdale). Another tract home, church filled town it shouldn't be.

Tulare county has foothills, but much of them are parts of parks, so you can't build on them.

[Des-Lab]

The problem with SV (aside from a small but vocal band of people demanding it be renamed) isn't the space, elevation, or weather.

It's the fact that it isn't close to anything. The nearest town of any size is probably Sanger, a good 25-30 min drive away, which itself isn't all that much.

Fresno, about 35-40+, depending on where you want to go. Going to build an all new, from scratch city out there where there's no business or economy or jobs of any kind?

Speaking of Tulare County, there was the Yokohl Valley proposal. That's a nice scenic area nestled in the foothills behind Exeter and Lindsay. Going through there then down into Springville and Porterville makes for a nice little day drive if you're ever in the area BTW.

And last I heard, the project was nixed once and for all. And for many of the reasons I mentioned above.

I'm not aware of any attempts to revive it at the moment.

[apple92680]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

There is no gas hookups to these houses and it gets cold up there on top of the Grapevine. Stupid Democrats want all green energy thats barely enough now and will be woefully inadaquet when electric cars start to sell.
Plus all these houses with all electricity also making the grid a joke even more than it is now. Plus when the wind blows and it blows a lot up there they turn the electricity off and you freeze to death.

The picture up there is not as "bleak" as you make it out to be.

It's actually a gorgeous area, with lots of Oak stands, pine and joshua trees. None of those would grow there if your perception were reality.

It's not frozen tundra by any means...

[dontbelievehim]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

The problem with SV (aside from a small but vocal band of people demanding it be renamed) isn't the space, elevation, or weather.

It's the fact that it isn't close to anything. The nearest town of any size is probably Sanger, a good 25-30 min drive away, which itself isn't all that much.

Fresno, about 35-40+, depending on where you want to go. Going to build an all new, from scratch city out there where there's no business or economy or jobs of any kind?

Speaking of Tulare County, there was the Yokohl Valley proposal. That's a nice scenic area nestled in the foothills behind Exeter and Lindsay. Going through there then down into Springville and Porterville makes for a nice little day drive if you're ever in the area BTW.

And last I heard, the project was nixed once and for all. And for many of the reasons I mentioned above.

I'm not aware of any attempts to revive it at the moment.

Tulare has plenty of cheap, empty land. Why build in the foothills when you can expand Visalia or Tulare for much cheaper. Fresno/Clovis is a large, sprawly place. People are getting tired of the sprawl. Makes more sense to build up a community in rural Fresno county than Tulare county right now. When Visalia gets sprawly, developers will consider the foothills.

You don't build squaw valley like Clovis, Visalia, or Tulare, you build it up like Scottsdale/Palm springs. If you do that, people will WANT to visit it. And a tourism based economy means thered be less need for commuting.


Btw, this centennial is also the middle of nowhere. So is Palm springs.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by Des-Lab

I said it earlier and I'll say it again. No one is going to be be the skunk at the picnic and ask those questions, along with the water issue. The only things that matter are creating a few construction jobs and collecting the subsequent property taxes.

In a sane world, not a single new house, apartment, or condo should be built anywhere in CA until further notice because of this.

Yep.