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Old 07-10-2022, 03:08 PM
 
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Based on my personal experience and properties I own and have lived in.
OC = Aliso, Laguna Niguel, Lake Forest, Laguna Hills, Dana
The Valley = West Hills, Woodland Hills, Studio City, Calabasas
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Old 07-10-2022, 03:45 PM
 
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Thanks for the inside info. Guerneville, indeed, was one of those "commuter" choices. I heard all about the flood risk from someone who tried Guerneville, and gave up, but not about the meth issue.

I have driven through Guerneville quite a number of times......but, normally don't stop there. Last time I drove through was when I decided to head over to the coast, after having a lunch in Healdsburg, I did make a stop though at this coffee shop, a few miles west of Guerneville, on my way to Goat Rock State Beach.


Duncans Mills


when driving through, this place caught my attention.....but, have not yet eaten there http://www.capefearcafe.net/about-us


I would sometimes stop in this small town, not far from Guerneville


https://www.sonomacounty.com/cities/...tal-trip-ideas
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Old 07-11-2022, 05:50 PM
 
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Boy, way to instantly and absolutely make yourself an unreliable narrator! LMAO
I take it you have never been to LA or SF or heard of Boudin or Gascon?
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Old 07-11-2022, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Piedmont, CA
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Hey California,

Curious if there is a general consensus, or opinion on where in California people enjoy the highest quality of living for the price? When you consider access to quality schools, healthy food, good restaurants, town amenities - health clubs, public pool and rec facilities, parks, hiking, access to arts and culture, clubs and town events.

Where are the towns where young educated 30 something professionals with future plans for kids moving? What are the best upper middle class zip code in California when you consider cost? In Northern California, obviously you have places like Mill Valley, Lafayette, Palo Alto, etc - but when you adjust for COL, they suddenly become impossible or completely absurd to live there, even when making pretty significant dual income (>$250-350k per year annually?)

My gut tells me places like San Rafael or maybe Walnut Creek take the prize in NorCal - but even these zip codes have extremely high real estate entry prices.

Any other ideas or perspectives on this? I guess another way to phrase the question - what zip code gives you the most for $1M?

Thanks!
There is a nonprofit called Measure of America, and they came out with a list of California subgeographic areas based on quality of life measures like health, education, income, general well being.

Anyhow, the average score for the US was 5.07 out of 10, and here are their scores for the Top Areas in California:

One Percent California consists of the two neighborhood clusters that score 9 or above out of 10 on the HD Index; these neighborhoods are home to just under one in every one hundred Californians

Neighborhood clusters that score between 7 and 8.99 on the Index are Elite Enclave California; 15 percent of Californians are part of this group.


California's 1%
Rank/Score/Location
1 9.26 Palo Alto-Los Altos-Mountain View
2 9.26 Cupertino-Saratoga-Los Gatos

California's Elite Enclaves
Rank/Score/Location
3 8.96 San Ramon-Danville-Alamo
4 8.96 Walnut Creek-Lafayette-Orinda-Moraga
5 8.61 Redondo Beach-Manhattan Beach-Hermosa Beach
6 8.49 Calabasas-Agoura Hills-Malibu-Westlake Village
7 8.49 San Diego(Northwest-Del Mar Mesa)
8 8.42 Newport Beach-Aliso Viejo-Laguna Hills
9 8.38 Rancho Santa Margarita
10 8.24 Los Angeles(Pacific Palisades)
11 8.24 Palos Verdes Peninsula
12 8.18 Sunnyvale-San Jose(North)
13 8.13 Oakland(Hills) & Piedmont
14 8.10 Irvine City
15 8.03 San Mateo(South)-Half Moon Bay
16 7.99 San Diego(Northwest/San Dieguito) & Encinitas
17 7.97 San Diego(Northeast/Rancho Bernardo) & Poway
18 7.90 San Rafael-Mill Valley-Sausalito
19 7.75 Fremont City
20 7.75 Redwood City-San Carlos-Belmont
21 7.73 Santa Monica City
22 7.70 San Jose(Southwest-Almaden Valley)
23 7.69 San Francisco(Inner Sunset-Castro)
24 7.69 Livermore, Pleasanton & Dublin
25 7.58 San Gabriel Valley Region(North)
26 7.57 Los Angeles(Southwest/Marina Del Rey & Westchester) & Culver City
27 7.51 San Francisco(Sunset District)
28 7.51 San Francisco(North Beach/Chinatown)
29 7.50 Concord(South)-Walnut Creek(East) & Clayton
30 7.48 Berkeley-Albany
31 7.47 San Jose(Northwest) & Santa Clara
32 7.39 San Francisco(Richmond District)
33 7.36 West Hollywood-Beverly Hills
34 7.34 Carlsbad City
35 7.29 Thousand Oaks City
36 7.25 San Jose(West Central) & Campbell
37 7.23 Los Angeles(West Central/Westwood/West LA)
38 7.21 Mission Viejo & Rancho Santa Margarita
39 7.07 Long Beach(East)
40 7.04 San Jose(Northeast) & Milpitas
41 7.04 San Francisco(Sunset District South)
42 7.03 San Clemente, Laguna Niguel-San Juan Capistrano
43 7.02 San Mateo(North), Burlingame & Millbrae
44 7.02 Diamond Bar-La Habra Heights-Rowland Heights

Very interesting findings and a very diverse mix of places. So this report says nearly 6 million California live in areas categorized as 'Elite' or higher. At that size it no longer seems very 'elite' because elite means only the best of the best but I guess 6 million out of 39 million could be considered elite even if 6 million seems massive.
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Old 07-11-2022, 07:22 PM
 
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There is a nonprofit called Measure of America, and they came out with a list of California subgeographic areas based on quality of life measures like health, education, income, general well being.

Anyhow, the average score for the US was 5.07 out of 10, and here are their scores for the Top Areas in California:

One Percent California consists of the two neighborhood clusters that score 9 or above out of 10 on the HD Index; these neighborhoods are home to just under one in every one hundred Californians

Neighborhood clusters that score between 7 and 8.99 on the Index are Elite Enclave California; 15 percent of Californians are part of this group.


California's 1%
Rank/Score/Location
1 9.26 Palo Alto-Los Altos-Mountain View
2 9.26 Cupertino-Saratoga-Los Gatos

California's Elite Enclaves
Rank/Score/Location
3 8.96 San Ramon-Danville-Alamo
4 8.96 Walnut Creek-Lafayette-Orinda-Moraga
5 8.61 Redondo Beach-Manhattan Beach-Hermosa Beach
6 8.49 Calabasas-Agoura Hills-Malibu-Westlake Village
7 8.49 San Diego(Northwest-Del Mar Mesa)
8 8.42 Newport Beach-Aliso Viejo-Laguna Hills
9 8.38 Rancho Santa Margarita
10 8.24 Los Angeles(Pacific Palisades)
11 8.24 Palos Verdes Peninsula
12 8.18 Sunnyvale-San Jose(North)
13 8.13 Oakland(Hills) & Piedmont
14 8.10 Irvine City
15 8.03 San Mateo(South)-Half Moon Bay
16 7.99 San Diego(Northwest/San Dieguito) & Encinitas
17 7.97 San Diego(Northeast/Rancho Bernardo) & Poway
18 7.90 San Rafael-Mill Valley-Sausalito
19 7.75 Fremont City
20 7.75 Redwood City-San Carlos-Belmont
21 7.73 Santa Monica City
22 7.70 San Jose(Southwest-Almaden Valley)
23 7.69 San Francisco(Inner Sunset-Castro)
24 7.69 Livermore, Pleasanton & Dublin
25 7.58 San Gabriel Valley Region(North)
26 7.57 Los Angeles(Southwest/Marina Del Rey & Westchester) & Culver City
27 7.51 San Francisco(Sunset District)
28 7.51 San Francisco(North Beach/Chinatown)
29 7.50 Concord(South)-Walnut Creek(East) & Clayton
30 7.48 Berkeley-Albany
31 7.47 San Jose(Northwest) & Santa Clara
32 7.39 San Francisco(Richmond District)
33 7.36 West Hollywood-Beverly Hills
34 7.34 Carlsbad City
35 7.29 Thousand Oaks City
36 7.25 San Jose(West Central) & Campbell
37 7.23 Los Angeles(West Central/Westwood/West LA)
38 7.21 Mission Viejo & Rancho Santa Margarita
39 7.07 Long Beach(East)
40 7.04 San Jose(Northeast) & Milpitas
41 7.04 San Francisco(Sunset District South)
42 7.03 San Clemente, Laguna Niguel-San Juan Capistrano
43 7.02 San Mateo(North), Burlingame & Millbrae
44 7.02 Diamond Bar-La Habra Heights-Rowland Heights

Very interesting findings and a very diverse mix of places. So this report says nearly 6 million California live in areas categorized as 'Elite' or higher. At that size it no longer seems very 'elite' because elite means only the best of the best but I guess 6 million out of 39 million could be considered elite even if 6 million seems massive.
So now you would have to crosstabulate that vs average home price $ per square foot in order to find highest QOL for the price.
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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I wonder if there's a list of cities where it's risky to live there?
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:07 PM
 
Location: West coast
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Nice list Monty.
Thanks.
I see a few flaws in it but overall I don’t think I could have done any better.
Hind sight being 20/20 and all that.

Where does La Jolla and Santa Barbara land?
Surely not behind Concord .
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Old 07-11-2022, 08:46 PM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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Take a gander at this property in San Rafael. Mindblowing! Just under 1 mill, too. Can you say "DREAM HOUSE"??


https://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Rafael...01/home/555015

The trees are cool, but I'm creating a materials list as I'm scrolling through the pictures. First thing is boxing in the eaves. For $1M I shouldn't be seeing rafter tails. Next I'm cutting out the entrance for a presentable front door. Then I'm spending the next two years gutting 90% of the interior, removing all traces of that butterscotch theme that stretches corner to corner. I get vertigo looking at picture #18.
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Old 07-12-2022, 04:09 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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The trees are cool, but I'm creating a materials list as I'm scrolling through the pictures. First thing is boxing in the eaves. For $1M I shouldn't be seeing rafter tails. Next I'm cutting out the entrance for a presentable front door. Then I'm spending the next two years gutting 90% of the interior, removing all traces of that butterscotch theme that stretches corner to corner. I get vertigo looking at picture #18.
I like the entrance. RE: interior, you're talking about cosmetic changes. No biggie. I'm looking at the bigger picture. And what's wrong with rafter tails? It's a nice house, great yard, within the OPs budget. For someone so enthralled with Marin, I'm surprised we haven't heard from him. Besides, it's the principle of the thing, not the specific house, anyway. Goes to show there are decent places with nice yards in Marin for the OP's price point. It's worth keeping an eye on the market there.
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Old 07-12-2022, 08:14 AM
 
Location: San Diego Native
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I like the entrance. RE: interior, you're talking about cosmetic changes. No biggie. I'm looking at the bigger picture. And what's wrong with rafter tails? It's a nice house, great yard, within the OPs budget. For someone so enthralled with Marin, I'm surprised we haven't heard from him. Besides, it's the principle of the thing, not the specific house, anyway. Goes to show there are decent places with nice yards in Marin for the OP's price point. It's worth keeping an eye on the market there.

I understood the greater point, I'm just telling you what I'd do to the place. And fwiw, boxed eaves are a fire suppression thing.
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