Santa Maria Town Center mall.... (Riverside, Ontario: for sale, apartments, job)

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by the city

what about compared to Valley Plaza Mall, Bayshore Mall, Hanford Mall, Chico Mall, and Merced Mall?

Not even CLOSE to the Valley Plaza Mall or the Hanford Mall. Seriously the Town Center Mall is a DUMP.

[the city]

Originally Posted by nevergoingback

Not even CLOSE to the Valley Plaza Mall or the Hanford Mall. Seriously the Town Center Mall is a DUMP.

why? because of gangs, amount of empy spaces, it's small?

[CA central coast]

Originally Posted by the city

what about compared to Valley Plaza Mall, Bayshore Mall, Hanford Mall, Chico Mall, and Merced Mall?

After I get my bachelor degree for city planning at Cal Poly Pomona (would be looking probably in 2012-2012 for a city planner job), so I was thinking Santa Maria, Thousand Oaks, San Luis Obispo, Clovis, Gilroy, and Salinas were the potential areas to look at. Of course, I have still have one year of high school left, but after high school I'm going straight to Cal Poly Pomona for 4 years and then from there I have to look for a job.

I do plan on having 2 kids one day, so me being a city planner in Santa Maria I would focus on getting more public schools built to relieve the gang problems at the public high schools. I don't really mind the traffic in the area, and if I want to avoid living in Santa Maria I could try Orcutt. But I think there are some good areas in Santa Maria, and I could always send my kids to Pacific Valley Christian Private School. And if the mall one day ever dies, it would most likely be converted into a lifestyle shopping center.

Have you ever heard of local politics? Your ambitious, that's good. But getting things done aroud here isn't easy. You'll find out. You might want to take your big plans out of state. somewhere where they like progress.

[the city]

Here is a list of big name stores at the malll:

Department stores:
-Macy's
-Gottschalks
-Sears
-Steve and Barry's

Shoe stores:
-Foot Locker
-Champs Sports
-Payless Shoes
-Takken Shoes

Surfer stores:
-Anchor Blue
-PacSun

Women's Apparel:
-d.e.m.o.
-Claire's

Youth Apparel:
-Hot Topic (coming soon)
-Spencer's Gifts

Jewelrey:
-Kay Jewelers
-Daniel's Jewelers

Other:
-Waldenbooks
-Bath and Body Works

Entertainment:
-Galaxy Cinemas (12 screen stadium seating theater coming soon)
-Motionz Laser Tag
-Fun N Games Arcade
-Food court w/ Red Robin, Hot Dog On A Stick, See's Candy, Sbarro, Terriyaki Bowl, and also in the mall is Orange Juilus and coming soon is Cinnabon

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by the city

why? because of gangs, amount of empy spaces, it's small?

Dude, there is just nothing going on there. Place is filled with mexicans (when there is anyone there at all), little kids running around everywhere sometimes with only diapers on. 14 year old girls dressed like hooks. No gangters just wanabes which are worse because they don't mind their own business. Gansters usually do.

I am biased those because I think S.M in general is a dump.

If you want to go shopping, SLO and SB are very close. SB's mall is pretty nice.

[the city]

Originally Posted by CA central coast

Have you ever heard of local politics? Your ambitious, that's good. But getting things done aroud here isn't easy. You'll find out. You might want to take your big plans out of state. somewhere where they like progress.

who said I was planning on making a city grow? I'm planning on fixing problems...like easing gang problems in gilroy, salinas, clovis, or santa maria.

Besides, my dreams of SLO county getting a mall are over as of now. It won't be until im 60 or older if Paso decides to keep growing and get a mall someday. But, the top economist are saying no new markets r going to arise. Which means, areas that r already small will stay small. Areas that are already growing and big, will stay that way.

SLO technically is a suburb like El Centro. SLO downtown is getting Macy's, Village at Maymont, and Shoppes at Palms upscale clothing retailer centres in downtown. And SLO is also gettting Kohl's next to Costco. Paso is getting Lowe's. Atascadero is getting a stadium seating theater and a Super Wal-Mart. Templeton has became the busiest town around. That is all I can hope for this county.

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by the city

what about compared to Valley Plaza Mall, Bayshore Mall, Hanford Mall, Chico Mall, and Merced Mall?

After I get my bachelor degree for city planning at Cal Poly Pomona (would be looking probably in 2012-2012 for a city planner job), so I was thinking Santa Maria, Thousand Oaks, San Luis Obispo, Clovis, Gilroy, and Salinas were the potential areas to look at. Of course, I have still have one year of high school left, but after high school I'm going straight to Cal Poly Pomona for 4 years and then from there I have to look for a job.

I do plan on having 2 kids one day, so me being a city planner in Santa Maria I would focus on getting more public schools built to relieve the gang problems at the public high schools. I don't really mind the traffic in the area, and if I want to avoid living in Santa Maria I could try Orcutt. But I think there are some good areas in Santa Maria, and I could always send my kids to Pacific Valley Christian Private School. And if the mall one day ever dies, it would most likely be converted into a lifestyle shopping center.

The development of public schools in California occurs independently of local municipal input. Everything from where they are located, the architecture of the school buildings, how big they are, when they are constructed. Public schools ultimately answer to the State Architect.

And what's the difference between a mall and a lifestyle shopping center? They are practically the same thing. It is more a marketing term than anything else.

Judging from the rest of your posts, it appears you like malls. I'd say you'd be better suited working in the private sector with a commercial developer.

[the city]

Originally Posted by MIKEETC

The development of public schools in California occurs independently of local municipal input. Everything from where they are located, the architecture of the school buildings, how big they are, when they are constructed. Public schools ultimately answer to the State Architect.

And what's the difference between a mall and a lifestyle shopping center? They are practically the same thing. It is more a marketing term than anything else.

Judging from the rest of your posts, it appears you like malls. I'd say you'd be better suited working in the private sector with a commercial developer.

Well, I know they plan on building a third school in Santa Maria. I'm not sure what type of city planning work I'd do in other cities.

Urban planning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

What is Planning ?


A lifestyle shopping center usually doesn't have any deparment stores, has a community facility or something community orientated in it, no food courts, no arcades, sometimes has a theater (community orientated), and many times has a pharmacy like Walgreens and a grocery store like Vons or Whole Foods. The clothing stores usually tend to be upscale and pricey. All lifestyle centers are outside too.

[CA central coast]

I never said anything about you making a city grow? You said you plan on fixing problems. What I mean is, you need the community to be on board with your plan. Local politics can be hell my boy. Fixing the gang problem through the construction of malls? Am I following you here?

[MIKEETC]

Originally Posted by the city

Well, I know they plan on building a third school in Santa Maria. I'm not sure what type of city planning work I'd do in other cities.

Santa Maria is not building any schools. The local school district, yes. But not the city itself.

Originally Posted by the city

Urban planning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What is Planning ?

Thanks for the links but I won't need it. All I have to do is go to work and do what I do to answer the question...

Originally Posted by the city

A lifestyle shopping center usually doesn't have any deparment stores, has a community facility or something community orientated in it, no food courts, no arcades, sometimes has a theater (community orientated), and many times has a pharmacy like Walgreens and a grocery store like Vons or Whole Foods. The clothing stores usually tend to be upscale and pricey. All lifestyle centers are outside too.

That definition has problems simply because lifestyle center is a marketing term. It's like calling a used car previously owned, or a phrase similarly created to imply something new or unique.

Victoria Gardens in Rancho Cucamonga, California is often referred to as a lifestyle center. It has Macy's, JC Penny, and before Macy's bought it, The Broadway. It also has a performing arts center, food courts, an AMC theater, and is outside. A lot of the stores there are "upscale and pricey", too. The Greene in Kettering, Ohio and Bridgeport Village in Portland, Oregon are very similar.

Victoria Gardens - One Destination. Countless Experiences.

The Greene :: Shopping, Dining, Entertainment, Apartments in Dayton, Ohio

Bridgeport Village - Best shopping center in Portland, OR

Step back from any of these, and what do you have? A shopping mall!!

I think what you're really trying to describe is a traditional downtown. Visit any central business district in any older city or town in the United States and you'll see a lot of what you're describing. If you don't see it, it's because a shopping mall was built that, for a lack of a better word, redirected the customer base.

You realize that one of the first, if not the first, outdoor malls was in Pomona, California? It went into decline around the time the nearby interstate (I-10) was built. That wasn't the sole reason, but it was a contributing factor. Anyway, shopping malls were built near the freeways which made them easily accessible in comparison to a lot of downtowns that were bypassed by the interstates. Interestingly, and not coincidentally, the Greene, Bridgeport Village, and Victoria Gardens are located off of Interstates 675, 5, and 15, respectively.

If you get the opportunity, visit downtown Claremont, Upland, Riverside, Ontario, or any similarly older community...it is a lesson of sorts. When people went out to do the things at the place that you describe, they went downtown.