Should California split into multiple states? (San Diego, Montclair: how much, house, income)

[BrianTerrill]

Originally Posted by chuck22b

I think one of the best parts of California is its' diversity... why split it up? I think in the most part each part has a symbiotic relationship with one another and that from what I know there isn't really any major animosity.

The North provides resources/water for the South, while the South brings up goods/services from the ports to the North and the rest of the Country. The bay area provides new ideas/technologies and the Central Valleys provide food for the rest of the State while the rest of the State provides a customer and tourists.

I think the whole of California makes up a "complete" California. I don't think the State would thrive as well if the individual parts were to be divided.

-chuck22b

It's diversity is the reason it should be split up. People in the Central Valley don't have the same political vibes as those in the Bay Area and the Bay Area lefties are always going to vote us out. On top of that, we have a stupid legislator, we can't elect real governors, we pay too much in taxes, fines, and other garbage and they still can't get out of debt. I want the Bay Area commis to pay for their own stupidity and I want real representation in the Senate.

[BrianTerrill]

California should be split into five states. They would be:

Northern California
Central California
The Bay Area
Los Angeles
and
Southern California

Northern California would begin at the border of Placer and Sacramento Counties. They would be the perfect display of small government, seeing that most people in that region are big on small government, and yet unlike Nevada scum would not be so tolerated.

The Central Valley areas from Sacramento to Modesto and maybe to Fresno or Bakersfield would create Central California. This state would be more of a swing state.

San Francisco, Oakland, Berkley and San Jose would be another state, they can call it whatever they want. Whatever they are, they with their crazy wacky liberal politicians won't kick me around as much anymore.

Southern California would include Orange and San Diego Counties along with the rest of the counties in Southern California except for Los Angeles County and whatever counties go to Central California. They would be Republicanish in their voting.

Los Angeles County can be it's own state, let the lefties in Hollywood and Beverly Hills pay for the police state they want.


That's how I think it should be. Places like Sacramento and Stockton would never give up the rest of Northern California if they were left to sink with the Bay Area. San Diego and Orange Counties would not be interested in being bullied by Los Angeles.

[pistola916]

^
I'm quite the opposite.


Sacramento should or would be in Nor Cal region... We don't want to be associated with the Central Valley. The CV would be Stockton down to Bakersfield.

or Sac could have its own region, the Gold Country...Sac, Placer, El Dorado counties.

As far as the Bay Area, I love it. I like the whole culture of the Bay. I live in San Francisco and consider myself a liberal and enjoy booze, and think there shouldn't be a speed limit-you should be able to drive what the traffic gives you. I support gay marriage.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by Franklyn

Actually the most discussed demarcation line was just below Kern County and through the Techachapi mountain range - so you'd be out-of-luck there. And as you didn't say but probably already know, any other part of the state that was included with Bagdad-by-the-Bay would be doomed to second-class status for life anyway. So it ain't gonna happen, I'm betting.

In the schemes to divide the state in the 19th and earlier 20th centuries this was the case. The GOP attempt in the '90s would have put the demarcation line just north of Sacramento.

[X-RAIDED1913]

California should be its own country !

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

Just give the Bay Area their own state so they can have their communist worker's paradise and leave the rest of us alone.

That is a farce: I am a worker and the Bay Area ain't no paradise for my ilk.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by pistola916

^
I'm quite the opposite.


Sacramento should or would be in Nor Cal region... We don't want to be associated with the Central Valley. The CV would be Stockton down to Bakersfield.

or Sac could have its own region, the Gold Country...Sac, Placer, El Dorado counties.

As far as the Bay Area, I love it. I like the whole culture of the Bay. I live in San Francisco and consider myself a liberal and enjoy booze, and think there shouldn't be a speed limit-you should be able to drive what the traffic gives you. I support gay marriage.

Good point there: the natural demarcation line in the San Joachim (sp) Valley is indeed in that 30 mile 'no mans land' between Sacto and Stockton along I-5.

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by Spincycle

San Diego metro should swap places with SF metro. Give LA, Hollywood, and "new SD" to Mexico, wall it off like a Wall of China, call it Mexifornia. Give "new SF" and everything north to Oregon, for a "greater Oregon". Leave everything remaining in-between as "new California". Give the taxpaying families relief and peace of mind. Enough is enough already.

That would backfire------------most likely 'Mexifornia' would crack the whip on the rest of Mexico (tremendous difference in educated population, infrastructure, etc) and wind up owning Baja with an increasingly eviscerated Mexico as the result.

[krudmonk]

Originally Posted by pistola916

As far as the Bay Area, I love it. I like the whole culture of the Bay. I live in San Francisco and consider myself a liberal and enjoy booze, and think there shouldn't be a speed limit-you should be able to drive what the traffic gives you. I support gay marriage.

I'm guessing you don't live near 19th Avenue.

[Kathleenh54]

If California were split into separate states, Northern and Southern, there would be more political representation in the Senate. CA would have four senators as opposed to two. It's ridiculous that Rhode Island has the same political clout in the US senate as California.