04-21-2016, 04:42 PM
Location: Oregon
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Montclairion
Mario, certainly I realize that conditions up in the far North are wetter. I just don't think your 2 opposing photos make your case, and that they tell an entirely different story. There are several things you might consider...:
The photos make total sense.
Before leaks and trampling, all the ferns were there. All the missing ferns are in the exact areas that have continually been walked on and trampled ever year, getting more and more bare every year regardless of weather.
All ferns anywhere else that's not trampled, look fine.
The area has been monitored and documented 8 years by me and others, and since 1998 by scientists. Any expert who has watched the grove concurs the damage is trampling. And the tramping associated with leaks.
05-04-2016, 11:37 AM
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Here is a perspective from an outside party. I was planning a trip to explore the Redwood National Forest as a vacation. I live on the East coast and have been saving up for 5 years for the whole trip. My last vacation was to Glacier, Yellowstone & Rocky Mountain 6 years ago. I have been reading all these clues and have narrowed down a place in the Lost Man Creek Area. I wouldn't have had a chance to find Hyperion because of you. I would have had more of a chance heading in blind. What if I would have died looking for it in the obviously wrong area(8 miles), which is a significantly harder hike? Would that even weigh on you when the real tree was a few football fields away from well established trails? What gave you the right to mislead people?
You talk about people trampling the soil and ferns. Who was the first party that posed a pretty girl crawling all over the trees? You are a source of the damage. You set the example. I thought it was those without sin, that should be throwing stones.
I, for one, thank the person that but together FamousRedwoods.com. What are you going to get from exposing that person? So you can publicly shame them? Get over yourself. I know if I found any information on any tree not identified on that website, I would be sending it to them, just to spite you.
05-07-2016, 10:06 PM
Location: Trona, California
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You are a clown, WVENG. Probably another FR troll sent here to stir the pot. FR is ashamed of what they have done. So much so that they won't even take credit for doing it. Basically a total loser.
05-11-2016, 11:16 PM
Location: Oregon
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Here is a perspective from an outside party.=.
That's the perspective of an outside foolish notion, and one that deflects the full scope of what's been posted about this topic. At least in my case, nobody photographed was standing on plants. That's in contrast to devastation by people standing on plants as triggered by leaks. So that aspect alone establishes the epic fail of your diatribe. I've got successive years images showing no plant loss from my photography. That means those are the
source of documentation --- meaning you must be the source of BS
So "what if" you went 8 miles somewhere? Would you have died? Are you telling us that you are a woosie? Because if the area explored makes that big a deal, that's woosie talk. Would that "weigh" on us? Why they heck should it? People bushwhack nooks and crannies all the time all over Redwood National and State Parks. Its their choice. 99% of them aren't cry-babies. The real bushwhacking men and women with a pair of "balls" don't pose such a question. They don't go 8 miles and die. They LIVE 8 miles of forest and enjoy it. Oh .... many of them happily share their adventures as their real selves, unlike wretched poltroons so doubtful of themselves that they have to pass notes in hiding.
On a final note for the night ...
The leaks have finally proven to be epic fails. Reminds me of fast food joints that sacrifice quality for quantity. The leaks drove volume like Micky-Dee sales. Fast-food redwood wanna-bees. Regardless of their proven destructive effort, they amount to less than a hill of beans.
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05-16-2016, 11:50 AM
Location: Trona, California
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Does anyone know if we can get Yinghai to remove his FR site, or at least make some adjustments to it so that everything isn't leaked? I know Yinghai likes to keep his site up and running but it's causing lots of trouble.
05-16-2016, 03:30 PM
Location: Trona, California
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word has trickled out recently that a first name which starts with the letter "y" is involved with FR.
Looks like I may be the recipient of the reward fund in short order because I was alluding to the rumours of Yinghai publishing the FR site when I made this post on 1/29/16. Looks like the rumours have panned out and the only question is will Yinghai remove his site or not?
05-16-2016, 04:09 PM
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Looks like I may be the recipient of the reward fund in short order because I was alluding to the rumours of Yinghai publishing the FR site when I made this post on 1/29/16. Looks like the rumours have panned out and the only question is will Yinghai remove his site or not?
I have sent him multiple emails making the same request and they have gone unanswered. The site has some good content but then goes way too far in providing off trail directions and GPS coordinates. The status quo of not revealing many of the tallest and largest redwood tree locations was supported by the Redwood National and State Parks, Save the Redwoods League, and several academic institutions including Humboldt State University. But apparently that is all irrelevant.
05-16-2016, 06:57 PM
Location: Trona, California
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Mr. Graham, thank you for your efforts in asking Yinghai to remove his FR site. The site could be converted to an appropriate site, but as of right now, Yinghai's site is going against the direction of all the organizations that you listed. Please, Mr. Graham, keep making every effort to have Yinghai remove the site. I'm sorry to hear that he is no longer communicating with you or other higher-ups in the redwoods groups.
05-19-2016, 03:26 PM
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That's the perspective of an outside foolish notion, and one that deflects the full scope of what's been posted about this topic. At least in my case, nobody photographed was standing on plants. That's in contrast to devastation by people standing on plants as triggered by leaks. So that aspect alone establishes the epic fail of your diatribe. I've got successive years images showing no plant loss from my photography. That means those are the source of documentation --- meaning you must be the source of BS
So "what if" you went 8 miles somewhere? Would you have died? Are you telling us that you are a woosie? Because if the area explored makes that big a deal, that's woosie talk. Would that "weigh" on us? Why they heck should it? People bushwhack nooks and crannies all the time all over Redwood National and State Parks. Its their choice. 99% of them aren't cry-babies. The real bushwhacking men and women with a pair of "balls" don't pose such a question. They don't go 8 miles and die. They LIVE 8 miles of forest and enjoy it. Oh .... many of them happily share their adventures as their real selves, unlike wretched poltroons so doubtful of themselves that they have to pass notes in hiding.
On a final note for the night ...
The leaks have finally proven to be epic fails. Reminds me of fast food joints that sacrifice quality for quantity. The leaks drove volume like Micky-Dee sales. Fast-food redwood wanna-bees. Regardless of their proven destructive effort, they amount to less than a hill of beans.
And the real Vaden comes out. This isn't about the tree's protection...it's about you and your feeling of self importance. I've seen multiple amateurish photos of your prop all over those trunks. Did she fly up there? You set the standard and you are thick if you can't see that. I'm sure all the visitors to the trees would say they cause no damage. You did.
Am I a woosie? Do you mean wussy? The word is a mix of wimp and the obvious. But I guess you needed to throw in a couple of oo's to show how alpha you are in front of all your friends. Wussy? No. I would have been happy and on vacation. I only would have had buyers remorse when I got home and saw that my hunt was full of lies and misdirection. You need you take a lesson in the morality you are trying to preach.
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People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)