Why is California so worshipped by people? (San Diego, San Francisco: low crime, home sales)

[rkb0305]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

How have your utility bills been in Denver and for what type of housing?

It is around $100, upper $100's in the winter for a 2030 sf house built in 1996. In Fresno, my house was slightly bigger, and older.

[Outback Annie]

Originally Posted by Foreverking

Cause its the only place you can go where they dont HATE Californians.

[pittsteelers247]

Originally Posted by treedonkey

Smoggy, hot and crowded... you were from LA, right? LA folks always refer to it as SoCal, or, even worse, 'the southland' not realizing that San Diego, lies further to the south, and is a whole different scene.

In regards to the smoggy weather, keep in mind that you left LA when its smoggy days were way WAY worse than they are today. I mean in the 70's they would have days at school where it would be too hazardous to go outside.

[rkb0305]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

I lived in Denver for years and finally couldn't take the heat, cold, hail, Tornadoes and biting bugs. Oh ya and the wind, lots and lots of wind. Driving on black ice is a real treat too. No thanks, I love SD now.
They do have the Donkos though

Well, SD is nice, if you can afford it and don't like seasons. My sister lives there. Her 900 sf condo cost more than my house here.

[Christine Joan]

I was born here but raised in PA until age 16 and then back to here, so I had a few years of not living here. During the time I didn't live here, my only desire was to come here. Of course, I had a family member here, which was partly driving that desire, but I also believe that it also had a lot to do with all the opportunities that are available to people who live here (state college used to be inexpensive here) that are not available to people who live in other states.

However, I believe that over the years, much of that has changed as it has become more expensive to live here and far more crowded. Now, I think that many people who live in other parts of the US have more opportunities than we have here and a lower cost of living. This is why I think the trend is beginning to reverse.

[chuck22b]

Originally Posted by pittsteelers247

In regards to the smoggy weather, keep in mind that you left LA when its smoggy days were way WAY worse than they are today. I mean in the 70's they would have days at school where it would be too hazardous to go outside.

Pittsteelers right, if you look at the history of Smog you'll find that the AQMD and other agencies has virtually eliminated State I smog days. California is a leader in battling smog and admissions standards. I'm glad that in the most part my tax dollars are being put to good use in cleaning up the air. In the 70s, smog levels were near the highest levels.

History

A Report on Los Angeles Air Quality Improvements in the Last 35 years by USC:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/sppd/bedr...airquality.pdf

and Los Angeles is no longer the most polluted Metro in the Country:
http://www.citymayors.com/environmen..._uscities.html

-chuck22b

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by rkb0305

Well, SD is nice, if you can afford it and don't like seasons. My sister lives there. Her 900 sf condo cost more than my house here.

I LOVE Denver. The view of the mountains and the crisp air. OH YEA

On vacation


I just didn't like the steady cold. Nothing sucks more than cold.

[EscapeCalifornia]

I have to laugh at someone called 1AngryTaxPayer moving TO Taxifornia.

[hsw]

SF and LA need to be compared to NYC and Chic, not Podunk...

COL is not dissimilar in these regions....CA has some of world's best weather, topography, culture of innovation, food and produce, very talented young women (obviously LA's Westside, not SF)....

Much of CA's talent, economy and culture of innovation and achievement is product of immigration, as is case for NYC region....many of world's smartest kids choose to come to Stanford/Berkeley for their education; many never leave SiliconValley as they build their careers and some start companies....and many affluent people from all over US, incl SiliconValley/NYC, choose to have wkend houses in BevHills/Malibu, some of most enjoyable wkend playgrounds in world

Always am amused when some claim CA's best days are behind it...talented people from all over world have been migrating to CA's leading universities for nearly 50yrs; the migration wave still continues....perhaps an efficient form of Darwinian selection in that CA's economy and high COL filters out those who gain admission to CA's best colleges and/or those who succeed in CA's most competitive industries???

Those who think they can find better "values" in living in allegedly cheaper places like Dallas/Houston should choose that option....Dall/Hou/Atl/Podunk may make sense for many w/lower-skilled/paid careers, but there are many reasons why many/most of the world's most talented/affluent professionals choose to live in SF region or in NYC region....

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by hsw

SF and LA need to be compared to NYC and Chic, not Podunk...

COL is not dissimilar in these regions....CA has some of world's best weather, topography, culture of innovation, food and produce, very talented young women (obviously LA's Westside, not SF)....

Much of CA's talent, economy and culture of innovation and achievement is product of immigration, as is case for NYC region....many of world's smartest kids choose to come to Stanford/Berkeley for their education; many never leave SiliconValley as they build their careers and some start companies....and many affluent people from all over US, incl SiliconValley/NYC, choose to have wkend houses in BevHills/Malibu, some of most enjoyable wkend playgrounds in world

Always am amused when some claim CA's best days are behind it...talented people from all over world have been migrating to CA's leading universities for nearly 50yrs; the migration wave still continues....perhaps an efficient form of Darwinian selection in that CA's economy and high COL filters out those who gain admission to CA's best colleges and/or those who succeed in CA's most competitive industries???

Those who think they can find better "values" in living in allegedly cheaper places like Dallas/Houston should choose that option....Dall/Hou/Atl/Podunk may make sense for many w/lower-skilled/paid careers, but there are many reasons why many/most of the world's most talented/affluent professionals choose to live in SF region or in NYC region....

Agree-------------till when many of said individuals start suffering 'burnout' and hightail to the Podunk towns where the overall stress is much less.