What the hell is wrong with the No on 8 people? (Los Angeles: colleges, live in)

[happ]

Originally Posted by bhcompy

big·ot·ry /ˈbɪgətri/[big-uh-tree]
1.stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.


sounds like the only one being a bigot is you

1. A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own.

2. The characteristic qualities of a bigot; intolerance or prejudice, especially religious or racial

3. The rigid intolerance of ideas or persons seen as different.

4. To be narrow minded or prejudice in your beliefs.

5. Intolerance toward those of different creeds or religious affiliations.

6. prejudice and/or discrimination against one or all members of a particular group based on negative perceptions of their beliefs and practices or on negative group stereotypes

Find yourself among the list. You are suggesting that we accept ignorance & if we don't we are bigots There is such an anti-intellectual element in the GOP. So we should accept stupidity or we are bigots? Bush has been the best example of your way of thinking & Americans will never let this happen again, bud. Get yourself in some college courses as fast as you can otherwise posting ignorance will only evoke laughter.

And why do you post on a gay theme issue? Do you think we will be enlightened by ignorance? Or just a way to spew hatred.

[bhcompy]

you are stereotyping people that disagree with your stance on the matter and are being completely intolerant of the fact that people have the right to their own opinions. that is the definition of bigotry, whether you like it or not.

i have spouted no hatred and made no name calling what-so-ever. i have stated numerous times that i could care less what sexuality someone is, but i do have a potential disagreement about what could go on in schools as myself and others have brought up specifically in regards to the situation that has occurred in massachusetts. unfortunately, the laws on record do not provide concrete guidance for these situations and i think guidance is needed before allowing this. based on this, please explain to me where i have been bigoted based on any definition you provided.

[tuindecisive]

Originally Posted by sav858

I can't believe a teacher was that stupid to do that. Even if its in SF and all the parents approved, that is a huge mistake and just giving the opposition A LOT of ammunition. How could anyone in their right mind think that was a good idea?

Yeah that Newsom commercial is really bad, I can easily see people allowing themselves to get influenced by it. Outside of SF very few people like him.

Some people in the Bay Area take their politics way too far and it turns off moderate voters, the ones that actually decide an election. I don't like to admit it but the "yes on 8" people are running a much better and more effective campaign. I think it would be horrible if 8 passed but that campaign really needs to get their stuff together if they even want to have a chance.

Just to be clear - that teacher took the day off work to get married, and some of the parents of the children in her class organized the trip to her wedding. The parents let the school know those children wouldn't be at school that day, and drove the kids themselves.

It wasn't a school event, and the teacher apparently didn't even know the kids would be there.

[happ]

Originally Posted by bhcompy

you are stereotyping people that disagree with your stance on the matter and are being completely intolerant of the fact that people have the right to their own opinions. that is the definition of bigotry, whether you like it or not.

i have spouted no hatred and made no name calling what-so-ever. i have stated numerous times that i could care less what sexuality someone is, but i do have a potential disagreement about what could go on in schools as myself and others have brought up specifically in regards to the situation that has occurred in massachusetts. unfortunately, the laws on record do not provide concrete guidance for these situations and i think guidance is needed before allowing this. based on this, please explain to me where i have been bigoted based on any definition you provided.

Bigotry is the rejection of science and learning because it doesn't fit in a person's narrow frame of mind. Unless you are in the grip of ultra-extremist evangelicals or experience significant self-hatred than explain your objection to gay marriage, please!

[happ]

Originally Posted by tuindecisive

Just to be clear - that teacher took the day off work to get married, and some of the parents of the children in her class organized the trip to her wedding. The parents let the school know those children wouldn't be at school that day, and drove the kids themselves.

It wasn't a school event, and the teacher apparently didn't even know the kids would be there.

What would a person say if the female teacher married a man & invited her class? Nothing. Anyone who attempts to argue that children shouldn't be exposed to an expression of love & committment is seriously out in left field & has no idea how screwed up they really are!

[bhcompy]

you and i both posted definitions for bigotry and none of them include science or learning. they include being negative and intolerant about opinions/ideals/morals other people hold. you are resulting to stereotyping, which is the worst form of intolerance. i have already explained myself and have no further need to

[Huckleberry3911948]

its like when you act ugly and crazy people don't wana support you.
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[SandyCo]

Actually, I would say something. It's inappropriate for a teacher to invite his/her pupils to a personal event like their wedding. Not that it's harmful, just inappropriate. Teachers are supposed to be authority figures, not friends.

So who now wants to welcome me to left field and tell me I'm screwed up?

Originally Posted by happ

What would a person say if the female teacher married a man & invited her class? Nothing. Anyone who attempts to argue that children shouldn't be exposed to an expression of love & committment is seriously out in left field & has no idea how screwed up they really are!

[Joe_Ryder]

I'm probably going to leave that one blank since I really don't have much of an opinion either way.

One concern I have that no one seems to have considered is what happens in 4.2 years when half of these happy and in-love people can't stand the sight of each other and the divorce gets into the already over taxed court system. In other words, How much is it going to cost me? I personally don't care who's doing who as long as I'm not paying for it. Someone may have considered this possible expense that I don't know about. To be honest, I haven't done any more research than a cursory glance because the subject isn't as of much interest to me as many other much more important matters. It does strike me as odd that while we are all standing on the precipice of the destruction of the American economy and way of life that people are getting violent over what strikes me as a fairly inconsequential matter. It's kind of ironic in a way.

I've never been through a divorce but have several friends (and siblings as well as my parents) who have and everyone involved gets hosed. By banning gay marriage it might actually be a blessing in disguise that allows them to forgo the agony of a messy divorce. It seems that battles governed by the already existing domestic partner laws seem to be a lot more equitable and far less bloody.

[happ]

Originally Posted by SandyCo

Actually, I would say something. It's inappropriate for a teacher to invite his/her pupils to a personal event like their wedding. Not that it's harmful, just inappropriate. Teachers are supposed to be authority figures, not friends.

So who now wants to welcome me to left field and tell me I'm screwed up?

I agree and that teacher could have been reprimanded if she works at a public school [maybe a private school would allow it but it is not a good practice for teacher & pupils.

It's actually "right field" [way out beyond anything Mannie Ramirez can hit - too bad the Dodgers are losing to Philly