Proposition 8 Supporters are not all bigots

[sonarrat]

Originally Posted by exarkansan

* I think that gays should make a whopping claim for damages for past-and-present injustices, much the same way that American Indians have been awarded huge sums for injustices carried out against them in former times. Blacks want to bring such a claim against white US society for the slavery they suffered, but present-day whites disclaim any responsibility for the ignorance of their forebears. The same defense crumbles in the face of the discrimination of gays.

As a gay person, I have no desire to receive reparations for any real or perceived "injustices." Such things are not helpful. I just want equality under the law, the equality which is guaranteed to us all.

[krudmonk]

Might I add that it's idiotic to think that voting NO on any proposition will somehow change the status quo. If they aren't teaching homosexuality to your kids right now, then they won't after Prop 8 is voted down. That's how it works. Damn, people are dumb.

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by Taboo2

I don't like people making others feel ashamed of who they are and this is EXACTLY what the YES on H8TE losers are doing to millions of americans.

And words like "losers" just fuel the fire even more. Thank you. You are doing more to hurt your cause, it's appreciated.

[j760]

Originally Posted by 1AngryTaxPayer

And words like "losers" just fuel the fire even more. Thank you. You are doing more to hurt your cause, it's appreciated.

Completely agree, because someone doesn't share another persons point of view doesn't make them a loser. Regarding the person you replied to, I'm voting Yes on 8 and if that makes me a loser in their eyes so be it. I don't share the views of those voting no, but I certainly don't think they are losers. Everyone can vote as they wish, that's what's great about America.

[happ]

Originally Posted by j760

Completely agree, because someone doesn't share another persons point of view doesn't make them a loser. Regarding the person you replied to, I'm voting Yes on 8 and if that makes me a loser in their eyes so be it. I don't share the views of those voting no, but I certainly don't think they are losers. Everyone can vote as they wish, that's what's great about America.

It does make you a loser & you will clearly realize that next week. A loser is anyone who tries to hold down common sense\fairness for a narrow-minded\ mindless religious superstition. What's great about America is that you are a loser How many elections where every one you vote for loses before you decide to leave California? [can we help you find a better environment for 'your kind' [ie. Iran executes gay teens; wouldn't that turn you on?

[1AngryTaxPayer]

Originally Posted by happ

It does make you a loser & you will clearly realize that next week.

Be glad you live in the US as you would be missing your head if you lived in Iran. Most of us would.

[antredd]

Originally Posted by sonarrat

And Prop 8 impacts this how?

The entire text of Proposition 8 reads:



That's it. I don't see anything about education. Gays and lesbians could just as easily have done this before the CA court overturned the gay marriage ban. They could do it just as easily even if Prop 8 is passed. This is a total red herring. Furthermore, has this happened in the months since the ban was overturned? After all, gay marriage is legal right now. The answer is: of course not. These things simply haven't happened, and to suggest they will just because the people vote to keep things the way they are is ridiculous.

Wow Sonarrat. What a very good observation. I don't think I was red herring. But like anything that is controversial. It starts off small, then once that controversial issue becomes tolerated, then the next step is to totally defeat anyone who may be against that issue by throwing it completely in the person's face. I think that was my intent by stating that would be the next proposition or measure put on ballots for us to vote for. The United States of America is a great country,and I don't want my faith forced on anyone since my Bible teaches all of my fellow believers not to be part of the world anyway. The world is on a demise anyway, and all christians know that and believe that if we believe what has been prophesized. But again, thanks for the observation and I agree with you 100%.