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Old 11-05-2008, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Are those folks from the San Fran Bay area? They always think they're northern California.
LOL... a lot of them are, but no--the majority are from the East Bay and Sacramento/San Joaquin Valley/Central Valley.

I think when most folks say "Southern California", what they really mean is "the greater Los Angeles region".

And Northern California is really, "not Los Angeles, Inland Empire, Bakersfield, and the deserts."

I think it's not they consider themselves all NC, just that they consider themselves better than SC. j/k
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Dunsmuir, Ca.
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I think it's not they consider themselves all NC, just that they consider themselves better than SC. j/k
That line hits the nail on the head.

I'm not a native Californian. But I spent 20 years in Southern Ca. and have since moved to Northern Ca. Here's my take: Many of those who live in the San Francisco Bay area seem to have an inferiority complex when compared to Southern California. It is evidenced in their many negative references toward Southern California and those who live there. My opinion is also that those in Southern California are largely indifferent to those in and around San Francisco and to their opinions.

San Franciscan: "Oh, you're from L.A? Well L.A. sucks. They have no culture, no art, no public transit, no blah, no blah and no blah."

Los Angeleno: "The Bay Area? Oh, you mean near San Francisco? Cool. That's up north, right? Yeah, my cousin has been there. He said it's pretty cool. Have you been to In-N-Out? Righteous."

And now that I live in really Northern California, one of my favorite things when visiting the San Francisco area (calling it "the bay area" annoys me to no end - as if there is no other bay) is when people ask me where I live, I like to say "Northern California." Hahaha. It makes me laugh.
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Many of those who live in the San Francisco Bay area seem to have an inferiority complex when compared to Southern California. It is evidenced in their many negative references toward Southern California and those who live there.
I wouldn't put it so harshly... I think there's a little inconsistency in the "tolerance" that SF practices. Most folks are well meaning, but are intolerant of intolerance (and perceive SC to be intolerant)... plus having Hollywood in Los Angeles doesn't help with the negative perception (since Hollywood is clearly inferior to Theatre ).

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My opinion is also that those in Southern California are largely indifferent to those in and around San Francisco and to their opinions.
Probably true of folks in Los Angeles proper... most interactions I've had are folks from the Inland Empire. They're not so understanding of SF and the Bay Area (or LA for that matter)... "The Bay Area? OH, so are you a homo? So why do you hate America? So why are you people so f-ing crazy?" Etc, etc.


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calling it "the bay area" annoys me to no end - as if there is no other bay
What other Bay Area is there?
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Old 11-05-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Dunsmuir, Ca.
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Most folks are well meaning, but are intolerant of intolerance (and perceive SC to be intolerant)... plus having Hollywood in Los Angeles doesn't help with the negative perception (since Hollywood is clearly inferior to Theatre ).

Probably true of folks in Los Angeles proper... most interactions I've had are folks from the Inland Empire. They're not so understanding of SF and the Bay Area (or LA for that matter)... "The Bay Area? OH, so are you a homo? So why do you hate America? So why are you people so f-ing crazy?" Etc, etc.

What other Bay Area is there?
JScek: You're funny and insightful. As to the inland empire; that's the second place I lived in California. Most of the Los Angeles area does not consider the "inland empire" to be an empire or even consider it at all. It is not Southern California in their minds. Sorry, San Bernardino, but that's the way it is. It's not considered to be representative of the culture and not considered a part of "Southern California" as represented to the rest of the country or the world. It's similar to the way middle America is represented: not at all worthy of consideration, although when it comes to elections they're suddenly viable.

As to what other bay: how about Santa Monica Bay, Penobscot Bay, and any of the other 10,000 bays throughout the civilized world? It's such a pompous concept: "the bay area."

It sounds a lot like Hollywood's query about being in the movie industry: "Are you in the industry?" As if there's only one industry. "Why yes I am. To which industry are you referrring?"
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