"Just where would you Go?" Poll (San Francisco, Oakland: living, cost of living)

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

According to that article, the answer may be just 2 hours north:

"Bakersfield, CA - pop. 315, 837 - 6.6% avg. salary increase
Oilfields and other natural resources created a lot of opportunity for growth around this city recently, and increased demand for services has spurred along the education and health-care sectors. Wages grew here much faster than the national average in recent years, and though that rate is expected to taper, nearby Edwards Air Base and Chevron should help to stabilize the economy and maintain a decent wage growth for transportation and logistics jobs."

I wonder how well cities like Bakersfield and Grand Junction are going to do now that oil's under $50/barrel.

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by City Boy

I'm glad you're happy but California is huge and all of that can be found somewhere in the state. Yes even the 4 seasons. But we need more people like you to leave to help cut down on the traffic. But as you leave 10 times as many replace you.

That is the problem. Not to mention that so many of those ten are illegals.

I know these things can be found in the state, especially the northern half. Except for number one. The cost of living here does not exist in cali. A basket of groceries completely filled to overflowing for 200? Doesn't happen in cali.

Right now we have a beautiful coating of glistening white snow/slush with ice underneath. I have taken soooo many people and got to watch snowflakes drift in the wind yesterday for the first time. Thats the other thing, here unless there is a really really really good reason in bad weather, people stay home. It can wait. I'm not sure you can find that in cali.

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by jaynetarzana

Oklahoma, where else? It seems to be the new place California's are fleeing to.

Shusshh we don't want all those yuppies to move here lol

Right now is below freezing, has a layer of ice followed by slush and then snow all over the pretty while landscape. If it doesn't melt off when it gets 38 tomorrow it will just freeze over.

But I'm happy sitting in my warm house

[nightbird47]

Originally Posted by City Boy

Oklahoma? Are you kidding me? They can have it. Also a high "illegal" population but of course only California has Mexicans who cross illegally.

Ah, but we have the same law Arizona passed... the population of hispanics dropped some 2 percent when that went into effect and it was already low.

[nevergoingback]

Originally Posted by jaynetarzana

I think people are getting REALLY desperate. You couldn't pay me enough to live in tornado alley completely landlocked with so many backward thinkers. No thank you!

You must have missed my post about high school graduates.
I'll take a "backwards" thinker with a BA over an ignorant POS who didn't even finish high school.

Yep, OK sucks, don't move here, tornados happen every day in every city, it's scary.

No but really, I've met more nice people from CA living here in OK than I did in 25 years while living in CA. LOL

[jaynetarzana]

The only thing worse than a backwards thinker is an educated backwards thinker. They *think* they know what they are talking about how they are even more obnoxious. This is just my opinion of course. There is just no way I could live in a red state with my beliefs.

[jwest09]

[quote=family first;7167187]Curious about all the folks who say they are on the verge of leaving California. What state and town would you go to? And for what reasons? What is holding you back from leaving the state?[/quote
Oklahoma or Texas, because they have low unemployment.

[jwest09]

Originally Posted by City Boy

Oklahoma? Are you kidding me? They can have it. Also a high "illegal" population but of course only California has Mexicans who cross illegally.

Oklahoma dose not have that bad of a "illegal" popilation. Most stay in Texas for work, and stay there because of good employment.

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by jaynetarzana

I am always curious as to why all of these people who have supposedly found that the grass greener elsewhere, spend so much time on the California forum. Could it be that they are just as busy trying to convince themselves that the place they moved provides such a better life?

Yep.

[sheri257]

Originally Posted by vegaspilgrim

According to that article, the answer may be just 2 hours north:

"Bakersfield, CA - pop. 315, 837 - 6.6% avg. salary increase
Oilfields and other natural resources created a lot of opportunity for growth around this city recently, and increased demand for services has spurred along the education and health-care sectors. Wages grew here much faster than the national average in recent years, and though that rate is expected to taper, nearby Edwards Air Base and Chevron should help to stabilize the economy and maintain a decent wage growth for transportation and logistics jobs."

It's the same for all of these places ... Alabama, whatever. Of course the wages seem to grow more percentage wise because they weren't paying much to begin with. A six percent increase in Bakersfield pay for my profession is still nothing compared to what I make on the California coast because Bakersfield pay is much lower.

People are not clamoring to move to places like Bakersfield or Alabama so, of course they have to pay a little more to try to get a labor force. But these are not exactly first choice, premium places to live.