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Old 05-25-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Of course, what do the police did in the Fresno case is wrong, but what's up with all the police bashing. Just because few bad apples in the police, it doesn't mean all of them are bad.
How many times have I heard that excuse given for the bad apples? Here's a suggestion: This topic is about the cops who abuse and murder the general public. Why don't you start a topic about the ones who don't?
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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It goes both way. Homeless killed police too, just last week.
Ind. pastor killed; homeless woman charged - Local News - Indianapolis, IN - TODAY.com

If the police would kill this homeless woman first, the public would be all over him. Now he's dead, nobody cares.



Of course, what do the police did in the Fresno case is wrong, but what's up with all the police bashing. Just because few bad apples in the police, it doesn't mean all of them are bad.

Try to live your life without law enforcement, you will know that they are important. No comment on the Sacramento case, I don't have the full story.
Your cherry picking isn't even that good.

Do you recall the San Diego police officer that was murdered in cold blood for no apparent reason at all? He bought lunch for a kid in I believe a McDonald's. Went out to his car, was waiting at a traffic light and some thug walked up and shot him. There was a huge outcry over that even as cases of excessive force by police were increasing it seemed. People still care about the police being senselessly killed however that doesn't negate the higher standard they are held to.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Your cherry picking isn't even that good.

Do you recall the San Diego police officer that was murdered in cold blood for no apparent reason at all? He bought lunch for a kid in I believe a McDonald's. Went out to his car, was waiting at a traffic light and some thug walked up and shot him. There was a huge outcry over that even as cases of excessive force by police were increasing it seemed. People still care about the police being senselessly killed however that doesn't negate the higher standard they are held to.


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How many times have I heard that excuse given for the bad apples? Here's a suggestion: This topic is about the cops who abuse and murder the general public. Why don't you start a topic about the ones who don't?
my bad, i didn't read the article carefully. Ok, fine if you only want to talk about the bad side. But i can start a topic about bad homeless people.

I didn't mean it should negate the higher standard. I said on my post that what they did were wrong. I just said, not all the police are bad.

this is what I posted. you guys only cherry what i posted.
Of course, what the police did in the Fresno case is wrong
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:20 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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Hey, go for it. Will you post excuses for cops murdering them, like what happened in Fullerton?
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:23 AM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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my bad, i didn't read the article carefully. Ok, fine if you only want to talk about the bad side. But i can start a topic about bad homeless people.

I didn't mean it should negate the higher standard. I said on my post that what they did were wrong. I just said, not all the police are bad.
But that's the problem. A few ruin it for all. Is it fair? No, but that's how it is. Like I said in a previous post, cops like this make it 10 times harder for the ones who aren't like this which is a good reason why the bad ones should be made into an example.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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Hey, go for it. Will you post excuses for cops murdering them, like what happened in Fullerton?

I believe that's second-degree murder, not first-degree since they didn't intent to go out there and kill that guy at the beginning of the day.
5-10 year in prison. I think the max is 15 years? Maybe less if the homeless guy resisted.
That's the only excuses that i have.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:30 AM
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I think you need to reread the article.

Pastors and Police whats the different, both imposing their will on the populace.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:31 AM
 
Location: West Coast Wanderer
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I believe that's second-degree murder, not first-degree since they didn't intent to go out there and kill that guy at the beginning of the day.
5-10 year in prison. I think the max is 15 years?

That's the only excuses that i have.
It could go either way I think. The police are trained to know what they're doing and how much force to use. For starters, the Fullerton cops, one of them threatened to punch the guy with his fist. I'm pretty sure that's not a tactic they're trained to use let alone threatening someone like that. At that point, he was no different than the gang bangers on the streets.
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Old 05-25-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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It could go either way I think. The police are trained to know what they're doing and how much force to use. For starters, the Fullerton cops, one of them threatened to punch the guy with his fist. I'm pretty sure that's not a tactic they're trained to use let alone threatening someone like that. At that point, he was no different than the gang bangers on the streets.
like i said i on my previous post. I don't know the detail. We will leave to the Justice department to decide, but it's hard to charge them with First Degree Murder.

Sorry man, you can't have 100% good people in any profession. You have teachers rape kids, politician steal public money, evil lawyers help people get get away with murder.
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:12 PM
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Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I'm from the Govt. and I'm here to help. Scary words.

Hey they are just here protect and serve (themselves).

What a load of crap. Anyone still wonder why pigs are disliked?

And please, please, don't give me the tired "few bad apples" excuse. I have never, ever met a cop that I thought was a "normal" person and I'm a completely law abiding citizen.
people who have friends and family with various police dept would disagree with you on how normal police officers can be...I find this sad and appalling you would think something like that. Yes, it takes a special personality to want to be a police officer and yes, the uniform can create a feeling of power, but may I remind you, cops put their lives on the line for us everyday, just like our military personel do. Do you feel the same way about our armed forces? Doyou have any idea what police officers put up with or what they face almost daily? Don't you kinow a few doctors that are complete jerks and how about attoneys? Every profession has good and bad people.

Nita
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