Wanting to move to cali... help pls very lost (Los Angeles: foreclosure, hotels)

[Fontucky]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

Its just as offensive in my mind to use the stereotype of Hispanic farm workers to talk about the Valley or anywhere else in California. That implies that is all Hispanics do. Many Hispanics in the Valley have been here generations and have even gone to college, what a concept.

And agriculture only employs about 10 to 15% of the total workforce in the Valley, lots of other types of work done in the Valley besides migrant farm work.

FF, maybe you should reread what she posted, which was "the Central valley has migrant farm workers ... and last I checked, most of them were Hispanic."

The CV has migrant farmworkers..... CHECK.
Most of them are Hispanic..... CHECK.

Where's the offense in that statement?

[FresnoFacts]

OK, enough of all of this, time to bring out the numbers.

California is 44% White; 35% Hispanic; 12% Asian; 6% Black; the rest split among groups like multiracial, Native American, etc.

Among some of the cities being thrown around on this thread the numbers of Hispanics are:
California statewide 35% Hispanic
Visalia 35%
Kingsburg 34%
Lemoore 30%
Paso Robles 22%
Clovis 20%
Temecula 19%
Placerville 13%
Atascadero 11%
Eureka/Humboldt County 8%
McKinleyville 5%

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by readinvin92

I want a nice city, not trying to be racist but dont want the city over crowded with hispanics.

You have the wrong place. California is expected to reach 50% Hispanic population by the year 2050, and I think my statistic is obsolete, probably more like 2040. Arizona, New Mexico and Texas are also heavily Hispanic.

If this is important to you then I suggest you should try maybe Utah. Definitely not California.

[Twinkle Toes]

Originally Posted by FresnoFacts

OK, enough of all of this, time to bring out the numbers.

California is 44% White; 35% Hispanic; 12% Asian; 6% Black; the rest split among groups like multiracial, Native American, etc.

Among some of the cities being thrown around on this thread the numbers of Hispanics are:
California statewide 35% Hispanic
Visalia 35%
Kingsburg 34%
Lemoore 30%
Paso Robles 22%
Clovis 20%
Temecula 19%
Placerville 13%
Atascadero 11%
Eureka/Humboldt County 8%
McKinleyville 5%

Where exactly did you find these numbers? Can you post a link?

[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by Fontucky

FF, maybe you should reread what she posted, which was "the Central valley has migrant farm workers ... and last I checked, most of them were Hispanic."

The CV has migrant farmworkers..... CHECK.
Most of them are Hispanic..... CHECK.

Where's the offense in that statement?

Simple, its the implication that the only Hispanics who live in the Central Valley are the migrant farm workers.

TT could have just said that there is a large population of Hispanics in the Valley. Isn't that what someone would say about other parts of California?

Mentioning only "migrant farm workers" helps to perpetuate a stereotype.

Its like saying Southern California has a large gang population or a large welfare population, most of them Black or Hispanic.

That implies that the members of those ethnic groups in the region ONLY fit into those 2 categories. It also perpetuates any existing stereotypes someone may have about the groups.

That is far from true in Southern California and TT's statement was far from true about Hispanics in the Central Valley.

If we want to fight someone's prejudices, we can't do it by perpetuating a stereotype.

Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes

How do you know I'm not Hispanic myself?

I don't, anymore than I know if you are female or male.

[Snort]

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[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by Twinkle Toes

Where exactly did you find these numbers? Can you post a link?

Sure, those numbers are straight from our friends here at city-data.

Click the individual cities at the page below and ethnic breakdowns are just below the median age, income and home price info. The only thing not clear is the precise year the ethnic numbers are from, but they track close to some of my other data sources.

http://www.city-data.com/city/California.html

[rkb0305]

The SJ Valley DOES have a large Hispanic population and it DOES have a lot of immigrant farm workers. I don't think the poster meant to be offensive.

[Twinkle Toes]

I wasn't trying to be offensive, but how many other ethnicities do you see working the fields? It's common knowledge - whether FF thinks I'm perpetuating a stereotype or not. I'm sorry FF got his/her nose in a snit. And when is the last time C-Ds numbers were updated?

[FresnoFacts]

I don't think the poster is trying to be offensive.

But how would we refer to the 46% of Los Angeles County that is Hispanic. By referring only to gangs? Is that an appropriate image of all Hispanics in Southern California?

I work with a lot of 1st and 2nd generation US born people of all ethnic backgrounds helping them to move up the social ladder.

Last Sunday, Extreme Makeover Home Edition broadcast a Fresno home build.

The person receiving the home is a single mother with a Hispanic last name, first in her family to go to college. The show didn't focus on the Hispanic background, not even the fact that her parents were farm workers.

Instead the show focused on the fact that she was born without legs and missing one arm. She was raised in foster homes, got married then divorce, lived on welfare with 4 children, then graduated from college. She had purchased an older home on her own after getting a job but it was not easily wheelchair accessible. She also works with Easter Seals helping families of children with disabilities.

Aren't those the more important impressions of people than perpetuating stereotypes? What they accomplish as individuals, not group stereotypes.