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03-28-2009, 07:15 PM
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One example, Nita: this past week Palin told a group of Republicans that she did not get along with the McCain campaign people because no one would "pray" with her before her debate with Joe Bidden. That may not sound wacko but when you consider a vice-presidential candidate complaining that some Republicans didn't want to pray with her, it puts Palin in the weirdo category. 
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03-28-2009, 08:16 PM
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One example, Nita: this past week Palin told a group of Republicans that she did not get along with the McCain campaign people because no one would "pray" with her before her debate with Joe Bidden. That may not sound wacko but when you consider a vice-presidential candidate complaining that some Republicans didn't want to pray with her, it puts Palin in the weirdo category. 
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To me there is a big difference between weird and wacko..
I have a very good friend here that wants to say a prayer everytime we even get together to discuss bridge. I think this is weird, but I don't think she is a wacko or a weirdo.
Nita
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03-28-2009, 08:29 PM
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الوقت كالسيف إن لم تقطعه قطعك
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To me there is a big difference between weird and wacko..
I have a very good friend here that wants to say a prayer everytime we even get together to discuss bridge. I think this is weird, but I don't think she is a wacko or a weirdo.
Nita
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That's why your friend is playing bridge and not running for office.
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03-28-2009, 11:04 PM
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Since Sarah Palin will be 'Not' running for governor of CA how about getting back to the original topic and question? What do you think about the current lineup of potential candidates?
Jeesh I know you guys miss SNL, but give ole' Sarah a rest.  She should be back in 2012 with presidential aspirations. But seriously CA has got a big enough mess which needs some kind of intervention now.
I mean what is the worse that could happen? Maybe we get another girly man elected back into office who becomes the new puppet of the legislature. And then what? It would be nice to have at least have one candidate who appeared to have a little bit of vision and steam, even if it is barely enough to get him through the election.
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03-28-2009, 11:17 PM
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oh I am sure I would, but I am guessing you do not have an answer, for whatever reason you do not like her, but not liking someone is hardly a reason for calling them Wacko, even if you do not like their politics. I know a lot of people I do not agree with, but I don't think I have ever called any of them wacko. Actually I find name calling about at the 3rd grade level, even my kids outgrew such thing while still in elementary school.
Nita 
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Oh come on. Palin from Podunk should never have seen the light of day. The only reason that she wasn't completely disregarded was because of how she looked. The only reason that she was chosen by McCain was because he was about as interesting as an undertaker and he was desperate. She is not suited as a leader in any area or state that is considered "multicultural", as her constituents appear to be the trash, rural, narrow-minded racist types. The smiling, smirking, winking lunatic certainly has no business being considered for any prominent national audience and belongs on SNL or Cartoon Network.
Also, she is a conservative, the party that has more in common with the klan than not. Wake up for God's sake. "Wacko" is as good a term as any to describe this very undesirable bunch. This country has been hampered the last 8 years because of these low-lifes.
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03-28-2009, 11:59 PM
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That doesn't mean she is wacko and it is still a state.
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Yes its a state with hardly any people in it. The point is its not hard for a wacko like Palin to get elected in a state with hardly anybody in it.
And Palin isn't a wacko because she is the governor of a state with hardly anybody in it. She is a wacko because her ideas are crazy and she has the IQ of a string bean.
Anyhow, back to California. Its too late, the state is screwed!
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And neanderthal right wing conservatives many of them of the Palin school. But when the Prop 11 redistricting kicks in for the 2012 elections, the legislature will start to be less dysfunctional....
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California does not have many "right wing conservatives", it has fiscal conservatives like the current governor. Prop 11 is not going to change much. The problem is that the state has spent itself into oblivion and needs to dramatically change its economic policies. A fundamental shift is required, not just a handful of small changes. But so long as the liberal wing-nuts in the state think that you can solve things by raising taxes then it will just get worse.
The state will have to do something dramatic to become viable again, like removing the income/corporate taxes, tossing prop 13 out the door and increasing property taxes to 2~3% and cutting down spending to match revenue. Bonds should only be used for infrastructure, not to fund a welfare state.
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03-29-2009, 10:34 AM
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Whoever the next governor is, he's going to have a hard time. Arnold is incompetent, but he could have done a lot better if he wasn't fighting tooth and nail with a clueless state legislature over things as basic as the budget, for months on end.
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03-29-2009, 01:40 PM
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Oh come on. Palin from Podunk should never have seen the light of day. The only reason that she wasn't completely disregarded was because of how she looked. The only reason that she was chosen by McCain was because he was about as interesting as an undertaker and he was desperate. She is not suited as a leader in any area or state that is considered "multicultural", as her constituents appear to be the trash, rural, narrow-minded racist types. The smiling, smirking, winking lunatic certainly has no business being considered for any prominent national audience and belongs on SNL or Cartoon Network.
Also, she is a conservative, the party that has more in common with the klan than not. Wake up for God's sake. "Wacko" is as good a term as any to describe this very undesirable bunch. This country has been hampered the last 8 years because of these low-lifes.
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you kow what? I didn't say I liked her or agreed with her. I do happen to like her, but I certainly do not like her views on many things: my problem is a couple of things, she isn't running right now, she isn't from Ca and the election for Pres/VP is over, let it alone plus I think it is so childish to call anyone a make and to say she is wacko is totally out of line. Now, you call her a lunatic, that is probably worse...But if you feel better by calling someone names that is up to you..
Of course many people could say some things about people living in San Francisco as well, but hopefully those people are above this sort of thing.
Nita
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03-29-2009, 01:59 PM
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Also, she is a conservative, the party that has more in common with the klan than not.
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The democrat party has a Senator who was a Grand Wizard in the KKK. Sen Byrd.
Do you want to restate which party has more in common with the KKK?
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03-29-2009, 03:40 PM
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I found this article interesting discussing the CA's next governor:
Caifornia's 2010 gubernatorial candidates
Apparently we have had governors hailing from SoCal since 1982. The current likely gubernatorial candidates look to be from NorCal primarily.
Do you think this will make a difference?
I know for me I don't really care as long as he/she can effect a change for the better in Sacramento.
What are the main issues for you?
The main things I am looking at are the economy/budget and education. Although there are many other others important issues facing California as well such as the environment/clean energy, and a business friendly state which produces more jobs and address current unemployment rates.
Can an old school politician such as Jerry Brown really do anything to effect real change? How about the other candidates listed in the article? There are the Silicon Valley billionaires - Steve Poizner and Meg Whitman, Schwarzenegger's budget director - Tom Campbell, then Gavin Newsom, John Garamendi, Jerry Brown and Dianne Feinstein. Hmm...
I am moderate in my voting which for me means I don't care about color (blue/red) but rather what the individual actually brings to the table. No one is perfect, especially politicians. But single issue paritisan politics just doesn't cut it for me. Our next governor has a big uphill battle ahead of him on many levels. Unfortunately I do not see anyone yet that looks up to the task. But maybe one strong candidate will emerge such as Schwarzenegger did when he ran who can actually help lead us out our state's current crisis.
What do you think?
Derek
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I tend to agree with BennyPhoenix. The legislature is our real problem. And everyone thinks their legislator is ok...it's all the other legislators that are the problem, don't 'ya know?
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