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Old 03-29-2007, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Ellensburg, Washington
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I am posting a link to this article by the Daily Breeze, a So. Cal. newspaper titled 'Blame the Californians.' http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/regstate/articles/6701527.html (broken link)

I think this might generate a bit of discussion about the migration from the Golden State to places elsewhere and what contributions of that migration follow, e.g., rising home prices.
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Old 03-29-2007, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Happiness is found inside your smile :)
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INtersting Article

If it helps, I'm moving BACK to California!

PS - I think the article missed that another reason Californians have been moving out is becuase the % of the population that is latin immigrants (I have no problems with them, I'm just from there so I know what people complain about)
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:09 PM
 
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Some residents in Western states where Californians have moved say they have a "negative influence on our society," infecting the rest of the region with their politics and questionable driving, and making housing prices soar.
Apparently they have not driven around Oregonians.
Not only are they bad drivers in their own state, they're bad everywhere. Sharing the freeway with Oregon drivers in large California cities like Sacramento, L.A. and San Diego is like a game of "dodge the tourists!".

California has been an influence across the country with television/media.

Californians spend their money in places like Oregon and Washington and they have natives telling them that they're making the state worse by moving or even visiting. California money is no good in the Northwest? Is this the mentality of the region?

Funny how California culture has spread throughout the United States yet people in other states put Californians down.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:46 PM
 
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Funny how California culture has spread throughout the United States yet people in other states put Californians down.
Having fled the "Golden State" culture when I retired, I'd like to point out that the spread of the California culture is the reason why people in other states put Californians down.

Good riddance......

Last edited by centurion; 03-29-2007 at 08:48 PM.. Reason: typo
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Somewhere close to Heber, AR
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LOL

IMO, sad but true.

Part of it my be the "Equity Rich" moving in and snapping up property/homes and then bragging about how good they have it.

Part of it may be attempting to change local attitudes/outlook/culture/lifestyle to make it more California, hence the phrase "Don't Californicate (insert state here)."

Avery minor part of it might be locals resenting "outsiders".

Doesen't matter much, as the California boomers will be retiring in record numbers pretty soon, and they will be bringing their equity money with them as they search for that perfect retirement home/area.

Gonna have to be a whole lot of adjustments made on everyone's part, but I think the biggest problem will be that much of America will categorically reject the California culture/attitude.
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Fountain Hills, Arizona
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I agree! California speculators and investors jacked up Arizona. They don't even want to live here but take as much as they can and leave. I got tired of Cali business purchasing my apartment then kicking me out without much notice because their investors just want a place without rentors.

It happened too many times I am ready to get the H...out of Arizona and move farther from Cali as much as I can.

Where is a good Cali repellant state?
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Coachella Valley, California
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I guess it's okay that California is made up of a LOT of people from EVERYWHERE ELSE!!! We accept everyone, no questions asked. Why be so hard on Californians? Aren't we all supposed to be AMERICANS???
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Old 03-29-2007, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Fountain Hills, Arizona
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Once Californians stop abusing the housing market in other states, then we will all be very happy.
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Old 03-29-2007, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Somewhere close to Heber, AR
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I guess it's okay that California is made up of a LOT of people from EVERYWHERE ELSE!!! We accept everyone, no questions asked. Why be so hard on Californians? Aren't we all supposed to be AMERICANS???
I doubt Californians accept everyone. You might, but, it's been my experience humans are suspicious of newcomers until they prove themselves to be harmless or "fit in".

I read the CA forum regularly, as my kids live there, one in the bay area, and one in the LA area. CA posters exhibit the same complexity that the posters on the other state boards do, so I doubt the simplistic view of your post, only because we are all Americans.
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:11 PM
 
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I am a Native Southern Californian now living in WA. Have to share with all of you that due to the snowbirds the real estate down there got so out of hand, in the area I lived in anyway. The prices creeped up more and more with the immigration of People from Wa and Or and even Canada. People could no longer afford to buy homes. The traffic is so congested during those winter months that it made it difficult to get to work in the mornings.

One day we were so frustrated that we thought if they are all coming here then we could go there... and let me share with you.... It isn't all that much cheaper to live here. Some things are better some more expensive so financially it all balances out. BUT...what we do love is the kindness of the people of the PNW. So Thank You all for being so welcoming and kind.
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