what do you californians think of philadelphians? (live in, zip code)

[sharpmama]

I forgot to mention that... my best friend here is from a little town not TOO far from Philly. She says she would never move back, but of course, she's really not from Philadelphia or even it's suburbs. More like one of the old industrial small towns that dot the state, about an hour 1/2 or so west of Philly.

However, she had a "friend" from an old Philadelphia family with lots of money who got "stuck" in Pasadena for 3 or 4 years. She was the most obnoxious person I think I've ever met, but I think it's because she thought her father's and grandfather's money made her a superior person. She actually left her husband and moved back to Philly with their young daughter. It was clear that if he wanted to stay married, he had to move as well. Which he eventually did... HE was a really nice guy and the only reason my BF knew his wife was because she worked w/the husband.

(Did I mention that she finagled to get control of her widowed mother's estate???????)

Sad, but those people are to be found almost everywhere aren't they?

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg

lol, pat's and geno's on passyunk... lemme let you in on a little secret, only tourists go there

Pats and Genos steaks are arguably the worst steaks you can get in the entire Philadlephia metro. They are horrendously bad.

The key to the cheesesteak is chopping the sirloin into tiny morsels and letting the cheese melt into the sirloin. Pats and Genos dont have the time for that as they have lines 2 blocks long. Their steaks taste like shoe leather.

A Cheesesteak should have american cheese,fried onions,tomato slices ,sweet pickles,ketchup. Thats it.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by K-Dawg

okay this is inspired by the thread about new yorkers in CA... you obviously have some negative opinions about NY'ers and i can't argue with some of them, but how about philadelphians? personally i would think philly people would be more laid back and easier to get along with than NY'ers... i mean from my perception we're not nearly as whiny, stuck-up, or judgemental as NY'ers and we tend to accept new people pretty easily... you know stay on our good side, we got your back... if we got a beef with ya we'll let you know, if we're cool, we watch out for each other... so what do you all think?

I was born and raised in Philadelphia before I moved to CA (and a few places in between). I agree with Sassberto....Philadelphia isn't even on the radar for most Californians. When I tell people I'm from there they really don't know anything about the area.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by mysticaltyger

I was born and raised in Philadelphia before I moved to CA (and a few places in between). I agree with Sassberto....Philadelphia isn't even on the radar for most Californians. When I tell people I'm from there they really don't know anything about the area.

This is hard to believe considering that Philadlephia is the 5th largest city and 4th largest metro economy in the usa. It has the 9th largest metro economy in the entire world. Fairly impressive credentials to be an afterthought?


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[cabolissa]

cream cheese. we like our bagels!

[majoun]

Originally Posted by cabolissa

cream cheese. we like our bagels!

A Philadelphian would consider the bagels in OC (or Austin) to be inedible.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by rainrock

This is hard to believe considering that Philadlephia is the 5th largest city and 4th largest metro economy in the usa. It has the 9th largest metro economy in the entire world. Fairly impressive credentials to be an afterthought?


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I did a little research, here on City Data.com, the US Census information, and a few other places. What I found is that the ranking you gave for Philadelphia is off by a little bit.

Largest US Cities:

1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Houston
5. Phoenix
6. Philadelphia (1,448,394)

Largest US Metropolitan Areas:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Washington D.C. area
5. Boston
6. San Jose
7. Philadelphia (6,382,714)

Metropolitan Statistical Areas Economic Strength Ranking for 2008:

1. Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, (NC,SC,)
2. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria (DC,VA,MD,WV,)
3. San Diego, CA
4. Nashville, TN
5. Sacramento, CA
6. Phoenix, AZ
22. Riverside-San Bernadino-Ontario, CA
25. Philadelphia Metro
28. Oxnard- Ventura-Thousand Oaks, CA
42. Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA
55. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA

Note: Included the top five plus others to show perspective. Liked the idea that the Oxnard, Ventura, Thousand Oaks area was so high on the list.

[OC Investor2]

Originally Posted by majoun

A Philadelphian would consider the bagels in OC (or Austin) to be inedible.

Actually I've found decent bagels here in OC. Even an acceptable cheesesteak. Pizza though....man, is it bad here.

[rainrock]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

I did a little research, here on City Data.com, the US Census information, and a few other places. What I found is that the ranking you gave for Philadelphia is off by a little bit.

Largest US Cities:

1. New York City
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Houston
5. Phoenix
6. Philadelphia (1,448,394)

As of 2007 Philaldephia was still the 5th largest city in the usa.Speculation is that Phoenix(which is 4x the land area of Philly) has moved ahead of it but I'd rather wait for the official 2010 census, until then its only fair to have Philadelphia in that 5 slot. To each his own though. Keep iin mind if Philadlephia were 500 sq miles like Phoenix its population would be 3.5 M people.

Originally Posted by SOONTOBNSURPRISE

Largest US Metropolitan Areas:

1. New York
2. Los Angeles
3. Chicago
4. Washington D.C. area
5. Boston
6. San Jose
7. Philadelphia (6,382,714)

I tend to think the PMSA(Primary) is the more accurate barometer of a metro region. The criteria you have used the CSMA(combined) gets you into a grey area. Washington and Baltimore are 2 seperate metroes, always have been always will.Theres 90 miles that seperates the southern Washington PMSA with the northern Baltimore pmsa. Thats not a metro thats chamber of commerce B.S.. Ditto Boston- Providence- New Hampshire and SF and SJ whose regional evolution is similar to Wash-Bal.

The Philadlephia region grew around its main core Philadlephia and keep in mind that we have counties within 20 miles of Philadlephia that arent included in metro Philadlephia due to the mass density of the East Coast.

Philaldephia has the 5th largest MSA. It appears like in the Phoenix case they have snuck dallas ahead of Philly in metro size. Peronally I think they should wait until the 2010 census info but no big deal.

The CMSA is a joke imo though.

10 largest largest MSA
1 New York-Northern New Jersey-Long Island, 18,815,988
2 Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA MSA 12,875,587
3 Chicago-Naperville-Joliet, IL-IN-WI MSA 09,524,673
4 Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington, TX MSA 06,145,037
5 Philadelphia-Camden-Wilmington, PA-NJ-DE-MD MSA 5,827,962

Originally Posted by SOONTOBNSURPRISE

Metropolitan Statistical Areas Economic Strength Ranking for 2008:

1. Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, (NC,SC,)
2. Washington-Arlington-Alexandria (DC,VA,MD,WV,)
3. San Diego, CA
4. Nashville, TN
5. Sacramento, CA
6. Phoenix, AZ
22. Riverside-San Bernadino-Ontario, CA
25. Philadelphia Metro
28. Oxnard- Ventura-Thousand Oaks, CA
42. Santa Rosa-Petaluma, CA
55. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Santa Ana, CA

I cant argue with this list as the Philadlephia area had its main growth spurt anywhere from 50 to 150 years ago, but I tend to try and encompass the entire body of work. Philadlephia isnt a region that should be in someones words on this thread"anonymous".


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Richest cities and urban areas in 2005

Rank City/Urban area Country GDP in US$bn
1 Tokyo Japan 1191
2 New York USA 1133
3 Los Angeles USA 639
4 Chicago USA 460
5 Paris France 460
6 London UK 452
7 Osaka/Kobe Japan 341
8 Mexico City Mexico 315
9 Philadelphia USA 312
10 Washington DC USA 299

[cabolissa]

Originally Posted by majoun

A Philadelphian would consider the bagels in OC (or Austin) to be inedible.

How completely lame -I'm not getting into an argument over who has the better bagel!!!

Anyway, who goes onto a state's forum to find out what they think of their home city? Insecure much? Who cares what people think of you?! What do you think of yourself? And why are you concerned with California in the first place? You can't broadbrush either Philly or CA.