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04-18-2009, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FresnoFacts
What else? The legislature is busy introducing lots that they think is going to improve our lives.
How about regulating lead wheel weights? "This bill would prohibit the manufacture, sale, or installation in California of wheel weights that contain more than 0.1% lead."
SB 757 Senate Bill - INTRODUCED
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Wheel weights need to be very dense to keep from being large. Lead is perfect. I guess if they outlaw lead we can all switch to using depleted uranium. 
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04-18-2009, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
Wheel weights need to be very dense to keep from being large. Lead is perfect. I guess if they outlaw lead we can all switch to using depleted uranium. 
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Banning of lead is a worldwide issue. All EU electronics products cannot have more than 0.1%, and many other places like China, etc... are doing the same. CA is going to do something similar soon along with various other countries.
Of course for certain purposes, some materials are better than others.
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04-18-2009, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Lovehound
The California legislature has improved my life so much in the last few decades that I'm going to have to move out of state to escape being improved anymore. 
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I'm with you. If I get any more improved I'll be insufferable and likely to live forever or until the Legislature runs out of improvements, whichever comes first. 
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04-18-2009, 04:46 PM
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So, as California taxpayers, you would rather foot the bill for new power plants than pass a law keeping crappy power-sucking televisions out of the state. No wonder we're in a fiscal crisis.
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04-18-2009, 05:00 PM
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In the Ozarks
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Originally Posted by MisterDuke
So, as California taxpayers, you would rather foot the bill for new power plants than pass a law keeping crappy power-sucking televisions out of the state. No wonder we're in a fiscal crisis.
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For the greater good over the longer period, the former. I have grandchikldren whose futures I'm increasingly concerned about. Patchwork solutions are just that.
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04-18-2009, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MisterDuke
So, as California taxpayers, you would rather foot the bill for new power plants than pass a law keeping crappy power-sucking televisions out of the state. No wonder we're in a fiscal crisis.
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If you think that power sucking TV sets are the root cause of the problem, then I pity you.
The root cause of the problem is run-away social programs combined with an anti-business attitude. The state government mentality is tax and spend, tax and spend, and the liberals are intent to have the perfect environment irrespective of the financial cost. The burden is placed upon those who work for a living, and the benefit is to those who have no skills other than unlimited sexual reproduction and an ability to work the system.
Yeah, it's my power sucking TV set that ruined California. Yup.
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04-18-2009, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by f_m
Banning of lead is a worldwide issue. All EU electronics products cannot have more than 0.1%, and many other places like China, etc... are doing the same. CA is going to do something similar soon along with various other countries.
Of course for certain purposes, some materials are better than others.
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There's a difference between lead solder in things that get thrown in landfills and lead wheel weights. Lead is a very recyclable material. Should they ban car batteries next? Maybe we can all hand crank our cars to start them instead.
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04-18-2009, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia
Should they ban car batteries next?
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Me being an electronic engineer I'm surprised that car batteries didn't occur to me. What are we going to replace them with? NiMH batteries and others also have environmental problems. And what about this electric car that is going to save us all? What is that going to run on? (Hydrogen and fuel cell don't seem to be likely to be available anytime soon at least economically.)
Nevertheless most countries are banning lead in solder, and the US is bound to follow soon or forget about exporting electronic goods.
Wheel weights seem to be the least of our problems. Practically anything with the appropriate weight could be substituted, although lead's density is a big benefit that the other materials don't share. I don't think we'll end up using depleted uranium.
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04-18-2009, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sunshine7793
If California is so worried about climate disaster how about softening their objection to nuclear power? The fruitcakes who come up with these silly rules seem to love everything about Europe. Then why not follow Europe's lead on nuclear energy? France gets 70% of their electricity from clean, non-poluting nuclear energy. But if nuclear energy was plentiful there would be no place for the scientists, environmentalists and politicans who stand to gain from energy shortages and climate scares.
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I live in a state that has three nuclear plants ( Tennessee ) I'm really kind of worried with the high numbers of tornados we get each year. I'm not a scientist or nuclear engineer but what are the odds of a large scale meltdown during, say.. an earthquake ?
Also, Would you say it's really safe to have a plant anywhere near Los Angeles that would put the lives of 20+ million in danger ?
Not being a smartass, seriously wondering.
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04-18-2009, 10:27 PM
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