Ca Legislature & Govenor Benedict Arnold (school district, taxi, retirement)

[DezertGirl]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

I agree with your sentiment, but most of the predictions I'm aware of indicate that most if not all of the propositions are going to be defeated.

Thank goodness! The people are waking up! Yesssss!

[eagle7]

There is alot more people then i thought that really hate the ca legislature & gov.benedict arnold. The state workers get 14 paid holidays off per yr & thats not incl sick days & vacations. They also cant be layed off due to a contract with benny. Cushy jobs plus great pensions. You cant beat that.

[eagle7]

Originally Posted by DezertGirl

Thank goodness! The people are waking up! Yesssss!

I sure hope they all fail. Benny says if prop 1-A fails he will have to lay off fire fighters. Hes full of it. Fire fighters are over paid as it is plus they just sit around most of the time anyways. I respect volunteer firemen more then paid ones. Many of the paid ones are in it for the money,job security & pension. The volunteer firemen are in it to really help the people & want to make a difference. We dont have volunteers in the city i live in cause the city council forbids it. The yucaipa city council are my buddys.....NOT !

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by eagle7

There is alot more people then i thought that really hate the ca legislature & gov.benedict arnold. The state workers get 14 paid holidays off per yr & thats not incl sick days & vacations. They also cant be layed off due to a contract with benny. Cushy jobs plus great pensions. You cant beat that.

You can thank the labor union-owned and -operated Lewgislature for the perks state workers receive. However, they CAN be laid off. It just has to be done by seniority and with ample notice. However, a budgetary trick for departments is to give up vacant positions. Then the Governor's Office can say that truthfully say, "_ _, _ _ _ state jobs were eliminated" although not one actual person lost employment.

For the record, not all the jobs are cushy by any means. State service can be brutal, especially for those in management, with long hours (and no overtime), demanding responsibilities and, what's worse, having to deal with the unions when disciplining or firing employees, which leads us right back to the Legislature where we started.

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by eagle7

There is alot more people then i thought that really hate the ca legislature & gov.benedict arnold. The state workers get 14 paid holidays off per yr & thats not incl sick days & vacations. They also cant be layed off due to a contract with benny. Cushy jobs plus great pensions. You cant beat that.

I certainly agree with you. Public employees are getting a fantastic benefit package compared to we who work in the private sector. I'm a degreed electronic engineer and I've been enraged lately when I discovered that school teachers make nearly the same salary as me, except they work only 9 months a year. I was enraged when I realized that my only retirement is my 401K plan and Social Security. Some public employees get 50% or more of their final salary as a pension! (My friend who just retired from D.W.P. is getting nearly 50% as pension.)

We taxpayers are paying for public employee salary and benefit packages that in many cases far exceed our own.

[BlackShoe]

Hate to say this about the state in which I have lived since the age of six,but California is out of control and the downward spiral has little chance of being reversed in the future.Until recently,had seriously considered a move to a small Northern California city,but now am looking out of state.Many will scoff at my sarcastic name,but California is very close to becoming "The Peoples Socialist Republic of Mexifornia".I am older,White,and Conservative.People like myself are leaving the state by the tens of thousands,or else staying and dying because they are too old to move.When we are gone,who is going to support the leeches,misfits,illegals,and those with entitlement mindsets?Recently there was a very insightful study published entitled "Freedom in the 50 States"It is online for anyone interested.The states were evaluated and ranked in several criteria.California ranked 47th overall and ranked near the bottom in every factor.

[EscapeCalifornia]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Hate to say this about the state in which I have lived since the age of six,but California is out of control and the downward spiral has little chance of being reversed in the future.Until recently,had seriously considered a move to a small Northern California city,but now am looking out of state.Many will scoff at my sarcastic name,but California is very close to becoming "The Peoples Socialist Republic of Mexifornia".I am older,White,and Conservative.People like myself are leaving the state by the tens of thousands,or else staying and dying because they are too old to move.When we are gone,who is going to support the leeches,misfits,illegals,and those with entitlement mindsets?Recently there was a very insightful study published entitled "Freedom in the 50 States"It is online for anyone interested.The states were evaluated and ranked in several criteria.California ranked 47th overall and ranked near the bottom in every factor.

California: Land of the Free (ride)

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by EscapeCalifornia

California: Land of the Free (ride)

California: Land of the Free (lunch)

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by BlackShoe

Recently there was a very insightful study published entitled "Freedom in the 50 States"It is online for anyone interested.The states were evaluated and ranked in several criteria.California ranked 47th overall and ranked near the bottom in every factor.

The original article is available only in PDF but here's a blogger who lists the results in HTML:

Freedom in the 50 States: An Index of Personal and Economic Freedom (full list shown here)

TABLE V: Overall Freedom Ranking
1. New Hampshire 0.432
2. Colorado 0.421
3. South Dakota 0.392
4. Idaho 0.356
5. Texas 0.346
...
46. Maryland -0.405
47. California -0.413
48. Rhode Island -0.430
49. New Jersey -0.457
50. New York -0.784

Read the original article for an explanation of the methodology.

[Curmudgeon]

So Ahnold and the Legislature have the right idea between Proposition 1C and the proposed study on legalizing marijuana.

Yessiree! I really want to live in a state that's "banking" its financial future on stoner gamblers.