Who's really considering moving out of California (Nice: how much, selling a house)

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

I agree with you. It's we conservatives who are the problem in California.
As soon as we get out of the way they can enact their liberal agenda.

* runs and ducks!

The conservatives are out of the way. We are the minority and our vote does not count as many have reminded us on this forum. So actually the liberals are running the state. How's that working for us?

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

OK. Those are real reasons. And notice you were able to articulate it without talking about government, liberals, or immigrants?

Too funny!

So are we to infer that in response to the original query we're not to cite government, liberals or immigrants as real, cogent and impelling reasons to leave the state even if they're part-and-parcel of our motive(s) for doing so?

Sounds like censorship to me.

Now I'm just an out-of-date old fart but it also seems to me that there is a decided tendency to lean to port in many of your posts.

[Sassberto]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

Too funny!

So are we to infer that in response to the original query we're not to cite government, liberals or immigrants as real, cogent and impelling reasons to leave the state even if they're part-and-parcel of our motive(s) for doing so?

Sounds like censorship to me.

Now I'm just an out-of-date old fart but it also seems to me that there is a decided tendency to lean to port in many of your posts.

I am not trying to exert any moderator-type control over your post. But re-read your own posts and tell me you don't come off as ranting and raving.

Notice how the people who already left post about how great it is where they moved to. They talk about the community, the nice house they bought. Tangible things. They don't talk about how great they feel to be aligned with the state tax policy.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Soccersupporter

We moved from Irvine, CA to Keller, TX. We adapted fine to the weather and actually enjoy the different seasons. We did not have any snow this year but the cold weather is nice. We only had 1 ice day and it meant an extra day off so we can't complain. My wife loves the heat but it is not my favorite so I built a great media room for summer. Summer nights are great, sitting on the patio at 10:00 pm still 85-90 degrees. You definitely need to spend a summer here before deciding because summers are intense. Good luck and if you decide to move to TX, welcome!

Thank-you I appreciate your input, the heat won't bother me, but my husband is worried

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

You haven't mentioned one single thing that affects you directly. That's I'm we're talking about. Who sells their house because they disagree with state government, that is ridiculous!

I think that the taxes involved in having programs affects him directly as they do all of us. If you disagree with state gov't and it is costing you $ in increased fees and taxes what better way to show your dissapprovement that to take your income and leave? If you have read thru this thread there are mulltiple people who have left and are happier and better off. It's already been proven that there is more income leaving the state than is coming in. I read today that the income the state is bringing in is at the same level as 1997. Well if you use your head they should not be spending anymore than 97.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

And then what happens when you move to state X, and someone you don't like gets elected, and your tax dollars go to some project you don't like... do you pick up and move again?

EVERYONE complains about how their tax dollars are spent. That's universal.

There is always going to be somethings voted in that you don't like or agree with but when election after election you vote down everything that costs money and they pass anyway you need to find somewhere where things align more with your thinking. That's why we have red states and blue states cuz we don't all think alike

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

I am not trying to exert any moderator-type control over your post. But re-read your own posts and tell me you don't come off as ranting and raving.

Notice how the people who already left post about how great it is where they moved to. They talk about the community, the nice house they bought. Tangible things. They don't talk about how great they feel to be aligned with the state tax policy.

I don't believe I either rant or rave. I simply declare my truth as I perceive it to apply only to me.

In case you've missed it, a major reason for the near apporoach of my/our move from California is the over-taxation. Add the over-lawing and over-regulation and none of those have anything to do with the venue to which we're proposing to move and are the primary reasons for our eventual departure.

Argue if you must but the reality is, I deplore what has happened to the state of my birth which occurred over three score years ago.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

I am not trying to exert any moderator-type control over your post. But re-read your own posts and tell me you don't come off as ranting and raving.

Notice how the people who already left post about how great it is where they moved to. They talk about the community, the nice house they bought. Tangible things. They don't talk about how great they feel to be aligned with the state tax policy.

Well noboby on this forum is saying it is great to be aligned with Ca state tax policy. The thing I notice about the posts of the people that left is they are not COMPLAINING about the new states taxes and property values they seem content with what they pay in another state compaired with what they were paying here. You don't have to talk about your state government when your happy with it and you feel like what your paying is fair for the amount of service you get.

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

I don't believe I either rant or rave.

Sassberto is biased towards his or her opinions on the issue. Thus the perception that you're ranting or raving. The fact is that others agree with you and are expressing similar feelings about our state.

Originally Posted by 4beanie

Well noboby on this forum is saying it is great to be aligned with Ca state tax policy.

I see plenty of whining about higher taxes, and particularly the increased auto registration costs. What I don't understand is why these people continue to vote for the same people who are increasing the taxes. I wonder why that is.

[MtnSurfer]

Originally Posted by Curmudgeon

I don't believe I either rant or rave. I simply declare my truth as I perceive it to apply only to me.

In case you've missed it, a major reason for the near apporoach of my/our move from California is the over-taxation. Add the over-lawing and over-regulation and none of those have anything to do with the venue to which we're proposing to move and are the primary reasons for our eventual departure.

Argue if you must but the reality is, I deplore what has happened to the state of my birth which occurred over three score years ago.

So are you saying you have deplored this for three score years? If not, then how long? And this Gov't oppression is now the main reason you are leaving?

If so, as previously mentioned, what happens when the next polictian or policy that comes along disapoints you? Will that be grounds to sell your house, pick up and move again in staunch protest? What happens when that 'other' political group moves in and starts messin' things up again. Do you see how this comes across, even if it is not how you intent to convey this thought process.

In CO for example more and more democrats are taking up positions of power. What makes where you are going immune to this? Just curious how that works. BTW I am not a democrat. But this just seems hard to imagine.