Who's really considering moving out of California (Los Angeles, San Diego: HOA, hotels)

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by BayAreaHillbilly

The libs posting here are part of the problem. Either they are carpetbaggers, or, are natives who are so urbanized / Easternized that they just don't get it.

The liberals have every right to post here and express their ideas and preferences. They are the majority, and they have every right to change California into a liberal paradise if that's what they want.

I don't feel that I've changed as much as the state has changed around me. My choices now are either to put up or get out. "The West" has always been more a state of mind than anything else. The "Easterners" can come here and change the state all they like, but it won't be "The West" anymore. (I don't accept the theory that it's the Easterner's fault.) Meanwhile those of us who believe we are true Westerners can do what people have always done. When you don't like the way things are you head 'em up and move out, to seek greener pastures.

[Rose Red]

Originally Posted by Sassberto

It's a personal choice. I am not going to sit here and tell people where they should and shouldn't live. However I would expect the same from someone else.

It's all about priorities. Mine might be different from yours. For example, my priorities include:

- owning a home in a district with *excellent* schools
- a home large enough to comfortably support 3 children and ideally room for my aging parents
- a neighborhood that is safe and quiet enough to walk around at night with children
- a neighborhood with open space and parks but not more than about 30 minutes from downtown
- a neighborhood with well-funded fire and police services

I do love CA and would love to stay but based on what is important to me, it doesn't make sense for the long term. Other people's decisions may be different.

Those are the exact reasons why we moved from CA to Round Rock TX in October 2006. My husband and I thought we would live in our old house in CA forever. Then we had our daughter and we saw the world through new eyes.

[City Boy]

Originally Posted by 4beanie

2 places not even on my list. You always have the option of coming back, but I don't want to spend the rest of my life thinking it could be better somewhere else. The state has continually gotten worse in the spend and tax situation. I wish I had hope that cuts would be made that would get us back on track but I guess I just don't believe the politicians are capable of doing that and the taxpayer will have to pick up the bill. Part of my problem is that as a family we never bought on credit and went without if we could not afford it and I would like to see the state run that way. I know it'll never happen. I guess I'm rambling...

Is there a state where politicians are not corrupt though? I think most states are screwed at this point.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by Rose Red

Those are the exact reasons why we moved from CA to Round Rock TX in October 2006. My husband and I thought we would live in our old house in CA forever. Then we had our daughter and we saw the world through new eyes.

How did you manage to survive without skiing in the morning and surfing in the afternoon?

Also, no celebrity in their right mind would live in Texas with all those cows and things.

[ma barker]

I am. Not sure if I'll hit Oklahoma or Texas. Calif isnt a bad place, its my home state, but Im just ready for some changes. Having family and friends in both areas I can get probably all the pros and cons of both areas.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Lovehound

The liberals have every right to post here and express their ideas and preferences. They are the majority, and they have every right to change California into a liberal paradise if that's what they want.

I don't feel that I've changed as much as the state has changed around me. My choices now are either to put up or get out. "The West" has always been more a state of mind than anything else. The "Easterners" can come here and change the state all they like, but it won't be "The West" anymore. (I don't accept the theory that it's the Easterner's fault.) Meanwhile those of us who believe we are true Westerners can do what people have always done. When you don't like the way things are you head 'em up and move out, to seek greener pastures.

"change California into a liberal paradise" I think it's already there! except for the paradise part. They are the majority, and that may be the problem. But for some that may be why they love Ca. It's their liberal paradise.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by Rose Red

Those are the exact reasons why we moved from CA to Round Rock TX in October 2006. My husband and I thought we would live in our old house in CA forever. Then we had our daughter and we saw the world through new eyes.

My neice just had her son last August. She says she is leaving before he starts school.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by City Boy

Is there a state where politicians are not corrupt though? I think most states are screwed at this point.

No. I'm not naive enough to think there is. Where we are considering going their legislature meets a couple of months every other year. I think the less time they have to spend together debating policy the better.

[BayAreaHillbilly]

Originally Posted by 4beanie

No. I'm not naive enough to think there is. Where we are considering going their legislature meets a couple of months every other year. I think the less time they have to spend together debating policy the better.

"Government IS the problem" - R. W. Reagan

[Lovehound]

Originally Posted by 4beanie

"change California into a liberal paradise" I think it's already there! except for the paradise part. They are the majority, and that may be the problem. But for some that may be why they love Ca. It's their liberal paradise.

I agree with you. It's we conservatives who are the problem in California.
As soon as we get out of the way they can enact their liberal agenda.

* runs and ducks!