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06-03-2009, 09:47 AM
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i prostitute on the side...
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06-03-2009, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Did you actually verify this? Or, are you just assuming this? (One datapoint, your salary, doesn't prove anything.)
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I've verified it... bls.gov
I've also verified it with people that were working in our San Jose office vs. our Chicago office. 35% pay increase. |
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06-03-2009, 05:49 PM
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California can be relatively cheap if you know where to live.  A decent house where I live (< 10 y/o 3 bd, 3 bath) runs around $190-250k. Rent on a fairly nice 2bed/1.5bath apartment is about $525/mo.
I also make fairly good money too, so my overall cost of living is pretty low.
Its a stereotype that "California" is an expensive place to live. Sure if you want to live right by the beach, or on the lake in Tahoe, or in Marin County youre going to be paying the price, but as long as you can do some research, theres plenty of reasonable places to live here. Really.  |
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06-03-2009, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ryanst530
California can be relatively cheap if you know where to live. A decent house where I live (< 10 y/o 3 bd, 3 bath) runs around $190-250k. Rent on a fairly nice 2bed/1.5bath apartment is about $525/mo.
I also make fairly good money too, so my overall cost of living is pretty low.
Its a stereotype that "California" is an expensive place to live. Sure if you want to live right by the beach, or on the lake in Tahoe, or in Marin County youre going to be paying the price, but as long as you can do some research, theres plenty of reasonable places to live here. Really. |
China Lake? Are you kidding me?
All you have to do is live in the middle of nowhere and enjoy the surface of Mercury to find such affordable housing. |
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06-03-2009, 06:27 PM
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The problem I have constantly ran into with California is that most of the affordable areas have poor job markets.
Of course, right now, everywhere has a poor job market.
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06-04-2009, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Did you actually verify this? Or, are you just assuming this? (One datapoint, your salary, doesn't prove anything.)
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Yes, it is pretty much common knowlege. I lived in Little Rock for a year or two and couldn't get more than 50-60 K. Moved back to Westlake Village at $104, and that was 8 years ago... You can look on DICE.com to verify for yourself. |
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06-04-2009, 12:57 PM
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My DH's company is global and his salary is based on the position. It doesn't matter if we are in Chicago or California, he gets paid the same.
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06-04-2009, 12:59 PM
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And if someone is not working for a "Global Company"?
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06-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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One other issue in California is we have more than our share of boomers, hence, the gray ceiling is in full force at many (most?) places of employment. Lots of X-er (and now, Y-er) natives have left, especially once they / we started having kids. Conversely, one of the reasons my wife and I continue to stick it out is we are DINKs, and can get by without having good career tracks.
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06-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by drewcrewof2
Yes, it is pretty much common knowlege. I lived in Little Rock for a year or two and couldn't get more than 50-60 K. Moved back to Westlake Village at $104, and that was 8 years ago... You can look on DICE.com to verify for yourself.
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You provided one data point. I'm inclined to think your job, your situation, your skill set netted you that significantly higher salary. The demand for your skills was higher in Westlake than in Arkansas. (Also, I'd bet you could have a better lifestyle in Arkansas at $60K, than you can for $104K in Westlake Village. Your salary almost doubled but your housing costs and property taxes are more like triple or worse.)
Some positions will pay higher in LA but most do not pay nearly enough more than would be commensurate with housing prices.
Major aerospace companies don't work that way. I checked. Salaries for systems engineers in Los Angeles are only 6.8% higher than in Denver, Houston, or Huntsville.
Bottom line, in most cases it will be a net cash flow loss moving from most of the country to the Los Angeles area.
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