Need help fleeing high-tax liberalism in California. (San Diego, Fresno: vehicle registration, crime)

[e_cuyler]

There are ways to get out of paying some of the taxes for cars purchased outside of CA [at least in Orgeon], but they involve a lot of time, energy, and expense, and I'd guess in many cases it's probably easier and less expensive to just pay the CA tax.

[eureka1]

We need "citizens" like you like we need AIDS. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[4beanie]

Originally Posted by e_cuyler

There are ways to get out of paying some of the taxes for cars purchased outside of CA [at least in Orgeon], but they involve a lot of time, energy, and expense, and I'd guess in many cases it's probably easier and less expensive to just pay the CA tax.

Knew someone who got caught with Oregon plates. The fine was way more than they had saved. I think if you don't want to pay Ca taxes then you should find somewhere that you can tolerate their taxes. Although, it is entertaining to think of ways to get out of paying some of the taxes, when we get so little services for our money.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by notmeofficer

Here in a neighboring state border area where I live we have an entire detail that looks specifically for out of state plates.. and trying to match them to local residents... the income loss is huge... and worthwhile for the special attention,,,

Of course if it wasn't so outrageous to own stuff here some people wouldn't feel the need to cheat

good advice by others here

For me.. leaving is more viable than trying to mickeymouse my life trying to live a lie.

Maybe you know...

How does it work when people live in one state and commute to another or they own homes in both states?

I've seen a few cars before with Oregon AND California plates... never figured out why?

A student I know had her car stolen and her parents loaned her a car... she was attending Humboldt State and her parents lived outside Portland... she was stopped a few times and explained her car was stolen and she was driving her parents car till graduation...

[Vicman]

Rpche: You need to write more about why you feel the "liberalism" is affecting you. I read your post, but I got nothing from it.

You can say "I want to pay less taxes" and that will be that, but when you talk about "liberalism" you need to explain more. We need the beef about that.

[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by notmeofficer

Here in a neighboring state border area where I live we have an entire detail that looks specifically for out of state plates.. and trying to match them to local residents... the income loss is huge... and worthwhile for the special attention,,,

The CHP's CHEATERS program (not the TV show ) brings in $1 million per year from California residents who did not properly register a vehicle in California. They say there are many more they do not catch.
Sacto 9-1-1: CHP program catches owners who fail to register vehicles
Contact The CHP

[FresnoFacts]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

A student I know had her car stolen and her parents loaned her a car... she was attending Humboldt State and her parents lived outside Portland... she was stopped a few times and explained her car was stolen and she was driving her parents car till graduation...

My understanding is that college students and military personnel on active duty get a break.

But I suppose for a college student they would also look at things like is she paying resident or out-of-state fees.

I'll have to do some digging about that.

[FresnoFacts]

Correction - I just checked some college sites, they indicate the DMV can classify a college student as a resident, even if they are not paying the in-state fees. That includes international students.

I don't see anything that would say about her using her parent's vehicle from out of state.

But it might be hard to justify a long term use of an out of state car if she has established residency, no matter who is the vehicle's legal owner.

From the DMV

Any vehicle owned by a California resident must be registered within 20 days of entry into California unless a special permit was obtained. Nonresidents whose vehicles are properly registered to them in their home state or jurisdiction may operate their vehicles in California until they:

• Accept gainful employment in California.
• Claim a homeowner's exemption in California.
• Rent or lease a residence in California.
• Intend to live or be located here on a permanent basis (for example, acquire a California driver license, acquire other licenses not ordinarily extended to a nonresident, registered to vote).
• Enroll in an institution of higher learning as a California resident or enroll their dependents in school (K-12).

NOTE: Nonresident military personnel stationed in California or their spouses may operate their vehicles with valid out-of-state license plates from their home state or the state where the military person was last stationed.
California DMV HTVR9 - How To Register A Out-of-State Vehicle (Nonresident Vehicle)

[Ultrarunner]

Thank You for the info

[notmeofficer]

Originally Posted by Ultrarunner

Thank You for the info

The formula for determining residency isnt a mystery.. the above info posted is accurate.... generally standing on the side of the road during a traffic stop we use the "6 month and a day" test.... but DMV is more specific and restrictive...

Again.. Ive looked at it and it isnt worth it.. and getting caught means a healthy fine.. and one always has to fear the lights in the mirror.. and in the case of CHP they just send you a letter..and when you dont respond then you get a plate revocation.. here or Oregon.. and it gets spendy quickly

Oregon and California have DMV reciprocity.. and we can get plate returns just like California returns.. instantly.. it takes more time for other states...We have also heard all the stories and are hip to the tricks of wanna be out of staters

I wish the politicians didnt take so much of our money and create attitudes that even make people think of not doing the right thing.. but the bottom line is.. we all KNOW what the right thing is...


Im not sure what you were referencing about the car having Or and Cali plates.. the law only allows a vehicle to display one states plates at a time... even the decorative ones are illegal.. see 5200/5204 cvc