Time to impeach Arnie (Fresno, Arnold: house, college, salary)

[ryanst530]

Originally Posted by coyoteskye

Yeah, that's who we need ... Rush Limbaugh
A hater as governor of California.
I can only hope you're joking.
That "person" is absolute poison.
He has the fervor of a mad-man.
scary.

Please... Rush limbaugh is a man of values. He sticks to his beliefs and doesn't let popular opinion (if it coincides with his values) alter his decisions. He may come off brute force and arrogant when you hear about him on the liberal media, but reality is, if you actually listened to his shows on talk radio he is quite intelligent. He believes in hard work, low taxes, and earning your way in life. Work hard, and we will prosper. There is nothing wrong with that and that is exactly the type of change we need in California to fix its problems.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by ryanst530

I agree. Cant forget the liberal legislature is one of the main problems as well..



Supply and demand maybe, however, their positions are hugely overvalued. They are glorified paper pushers. Upper management for the school system has become corrupt. They no longer work to keep the kids well educated. They work to keep their monthly salary satisfactory and to ensure theyve got enough 91 octane gas for their BMW's.

Its BS. Now If the school system were in good shape and kids were well educated and facilities were top notch, THEN i could see no problem paying them well. But as of right now, kids are suffering by getting their programs cut meanwhile some adminstrators are getting bonuses!

Also, your argument of "if their pay wasn't high enough, noone would want it" is ridiculous. Who WOULDNT want a job that was one of the most stable jobs you can find, didn't require being on travel 3/4 weeks a month, and has a great atmosphere since you would be around well educated staff all-day. I think there would be a high demand for that type of position.

you have me mixed up, I didn't post anything about schools...
Never mind< I think I have it figured out..you are referring to a couple of postings at once. I have done the same thing in the past..


Nita

[wburg]

Originally Posted by nmnita

your opinion, not everyones my friend..

Nita

Considering that the Dems are only a few seats short of a supermajority, while the Reps would have to win over one-third of the state legislature while maintaining all of their current seats, it's a more popular opinion in this state than the ones presented here.

Consider it this way: Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the Republicans were able to capture a majority of the state legislature. But if they did not have a two-thirds supermajority, they STILL couldn't pass a budget because the Democratic then-minority could stall the process, not because it would do any good but because it would make the Republicans look bad...which is exactly what the Republicans have been doing to the Dems for the past couple of decades.

Getting rid of the two-thirds majority is the more reasonable course of action, and stop the minority party from hijacking the budget every year.

As to Rush Limbaugh, I would call him a scumbag but I wouldn't want to insult any actual bags filled with scum.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by ryanst530

Im sorry but the Terminator has to go.

This man is killing our state. We need to get Rush Limbaugh as governor for a few years to fix our mess.

Step 1) Eject Arnold. Replace him with hardcore conservative dude to boost our economy and job growth.
Step 2) Boot the illegals. Threaten lethal action if they refuse to obtain a greencard. This situation has just gotten ridiculous...
Step 3) Bleed off prison population by immediate death row for all serious offenders.
Step 4) Reduce school adminstrators salary to reasonable levels (most of them are currently getting 100K+! Meanwhile the schools end up cutting programs FOR THE KIDS to save their salaries!)
Step 5) Drop any and all state welfare and low income healthcare programs and eliminate any programs aimed at helping illegals.


Liberalism has killed this state. States like Texas are living in a surplus with one of the best economies in the country, and were in the hole $20+ billion with 11.5% unemployment paying some of the highest taxes in the country.

Please dont start a flame war over this. Any suggestions are welcome. Please respect everyones opinion.

Arnold is not the root of the problem. It's the liberal legislature. And actually, I think some of the conservatives in the legislature don't really help the conservative cause because they're too conservative on social issues.

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by esmith143

At this point, illegals are crucial to the functioning of the state. Asking to boot all illegals is akin to asking to cut off your left hand because you don't have enough food to sustain your body. That's why it is not going to happen. Too many businesses throughout the state need them. It's a shame that the state is forced to pay for their healthcare when that should properly be done by the federal government.

The right thing to do is not let illegal immigrants come here in the first place. The farmers will find some other way to get around cheap labor (mechanization, etc). It's just that cheap slaves (aka illegal immigrants) are the path of least resistance. If we have to pay more for produce, so be it. As it is we're paying more in taxes to keep illegal immigrants here.

The next best thing to do is not give them any kind of welfare benefits. 100 years ago, immigrants came here and did not get welfare, health care benefits, etc. A 1981 Supreme Court decision (Plyler v. Doe) said schools were not allowed to check for immigration status. This is some kind of insanity. What other country just allows people to move there illegally and then pays for people to send their kids to school?

Plyler v. Doe should be overturned. No other sane country would allow such nonsense (and that includes those European welfare states American liberals love so much).

[mysticaltyger]

Originally Posted by esmith143

Last I checked, Texas had larger state budget per capita than California.

That's completely false!

State spending per capita in TX (FY 2007): $3831 Rank: 50
State spending per capita in CA (FY 2007): $6417 Rank: 12


The Tax Foundation - State Spending Per Capita, Fiscal Year 2007

[mysticaltyger]

[quote=18Montclair;9407624Its very irritating to see people, many of whom, throw the bible in our faces everytime certain social issues arise, also then turn their backs when the opportunity arises to be christlike by loving our neighbors by making sure they can eat and be seen by a doctor.[/quote]

What woud really be Christlike is seeing to it that health care is affordable for both taxpayers and non taxpayers alike. Obama & the Democrats want to spend 1.6 Trillion more on health care and say even that much won't get us universal coverage. When you already have the world's most expensive health care system, something is seriously wrong with that premise.

As for eating, that's what we have food banks for.

[MyPOV]

Mr Davis left with 8 billion in debt, now its over 40......damage has been done, so let him retire as a Guvenator b.c I am pretty sure he will not be getting another acting job

[City Boy]

Originally Posted by ryanst530

Please... Rush limbaugh is a man of values. He sticks to his beliefs and doesn't let popular opinion (if it coincides with his values) alter his decisions. He may come off brute force and arrogant when you hear about him on the liberal media, but reality is, if you actually listened to his shows on talk radio he is quite intelligent. He believes in hard work, low taxes, and earning your way in life. Work hard, and we will prosper. There is nothing wrong with that and that is exactly the type of change we need in California to fix its problems.

Even most republicans despise that idiot. LOL at a drug abusing, shock jock racist being "A man of values". or good for california



What is the "Liberal Media"? Talk Radio? That's the Media, last time I checked it was dominated by conservatives. What about Fox News is that media also liberal? You probably don't even know why you throw out that predictable right wing catch phrase. "Liberal Media". sure. The media only cares about bad news, period.

[Alexus]

Originally Posted by ryanst530

Im sorry but the Terminator has to go.

This man is killing our state. We need to get Rush Limbaugh as governor for a few years to fix our mess.

Step 1) Eject Arnold. Replace him with hardcore conservative dude to boost our economy and job growth.
Step 2) Boot the illegals. Threaten lethal action if they refuse to obtain a greencard. This situation has just gotten ridiculous...
Step 3) Bleed off prison population by immediate death row for all serious offenders.
Step 4) Reduce school adminstrators salary to reasonable levels (most of them are currently getting 100K+! Meanwhile the schools end up cutting programs FOR THE KIDS to save their salaries!)
Step 5) Drop any and all state welfare and low income healthcare programs and eliminate any programs aimed at helping illegals.


Liberalism has killed this state. States like Texas are living in a surplus with one of the best economies in the country, and were in the hole $20+ billion with 11.5% unemployment paying some of the highest taxes in the country.

Please dont start a flame war over this. Any suggestions are welcome. Please respect everyones opinion.

I agree with:

Getting rid of that blundering zombie Arnold. He never should've been elected by the people in this state to begin with. The man is a conservative, remember, and has hurt the state with his lack of skills and conservative failed ideology of taxless and ineffective economic policy. He should be replaced by someone who is QUALIFIED.

Otherwise:

1) The state has been reeling from 8 horrific years of conservative "leadership." We would do best to kick all of the conservatives out of the state, and incorporate the illegals as citizens. Send all the conservatives to the deep south where they can be quarantined, sing dixie, continue fighting the civil war in more friendly surroundings, and inbreed. So, if it came down to choosing between conservatives and illegals, I'll take the ILLEGALS.

2) Village idiot economics. He did what he could for his own home state (Texas), yet worked against CA. For 8 years this happened. As we all know, as CA goes, so does the nation. How short-sighted of that idiot to think that he could focus only on boosting Texas, and this would help the country. It has hurt the country very badly. The neglect caused by spending nearly a trillion dollars trying to fight smoke with guns, trying to change an ideology by military action, declaring a war against an idea. What a shameful, shameful party the Republican party is, to curse this country and its most important state with such a collosal failure of a man.

3) Village idiot and conservative ideology has been detrimental to the most important state in this country, California. For 8 years, technical innovations, scientific research like stem-cell, medical research like a Cancer cure, technological research like better anti-hacker and data security have been undersupported or not supported at all by you regressives. Energy costs were outrageous and Bush stood by while electrical suppliers gouged the consumers of this state. Gas prices unusually high during his shameful tenure, highest in the nation in fact. Street gang warfare allowed to flourish in nearly every city and town in this state, while spending nearly a trillion dollars over in the middle east repeat attacking empty villages, taliban shadows, and insurgents with sling-shots. Street gangs routinely kill innocent people here while you conservatives support the enormous waste of dropping bombs on innocent men, women, and children of Iraq and Afghanistan. Pathetic and this has hurt this state tremendously.

4) Yes, illegal immigrants are here. Which ones are most offensive to you conservatives? Mexicans? Africans? Asians? Indians? If blond-haired, blue-eyed Scandanavians came over here illegally, would you even notice? Conservatives suck.

5) Yes, I agree about the death penalty. It should be swifty administered. But with a state of clueless people who a) voted against affirmative action as if racism no longer exists to the detriment of black people in this state, b) were short-sighted enough to elect a Republican imbecile for Governor, c) don't recognize same-sex marriage, I'm not too convinced that all the convictions of people on death row or in prison (especially the prisoners who are not blond and have blue eyes) were fair. Retry all non-white prisoners with lawyers, judges, and jurors who can view these people fairly. If the gangbangers, murderers, and so forth are deemed guily b/y reasonable doubt, yes, they should be put away. Similar applies to that segment of the white population in this state that routinely discriminates against all people of color. These conservatives should be severely prosecuted.

6) About schools, I say remove all the kids whose parents are racially intolerant, conservative and narrow-minded. Remove all the administrators, teachers, principals, and school officials who are same. Designate separate schools to teach illegal immigrants how to become good, educated, articulate, well-rounded citizens who are racially tolerant, respectful, and knowledgeable. Help those who can't help themselves, rather than assuming that they are lazy and worthless. We need less conservative divisiveness and more respect for people who are trying to make a better living for themselves and their families. Conservatives suck in this regard. Bush sucked. Republicans suck. Red states suck. Did I say Conservatives suck too?

7) The conservative obsession with welfare. Assume that all the people on welfare are black people, who are lazy and worthless. Treat them like slaves, less than full human beings. Slam illegal immigrants from mexico who are trying to make a better life for themselves and their kids. Willing to risk their lives in fact to try to realize any part of the American dream that you conservatives so proudly plaster on your chests and try to shove down the throats of every sovereign nation that you can reach. Support businesses that show a great profit, even if it was obtained by lying to say that there weren't enough qualified Americans so they could hire temporary visa workers from India on the cheap. Conservatives suck. I'd like to see the conservative contingent leave this state over any other group.

So, Conservative politics have been a great detriment to this state, and to nearly every other state except Texas. Texas is the loud-mouth state. It's residents loudly claim to have the pulse of the nation, but the reality is that this is only true in their own minds. Texas doesn't matter. CA does. As CA goes, so does the nation. When conservative falter or are not in control, the country flourishes. When conservatives who favor Texas are calling the shots, the country and the world flounders.

Suggesting Limbaugh is absolute proof that conservatives need more than a new leader. They need serious psychological intervention to stop them from chasing their tails. Thank God, we have Barack Obama at the helm. Now if we can get rid of that caveman Governor and eliminate more conservatives from decision-making positions, we'll do well.