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Old 06-26-2009, 11:57 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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How like the Governor's Office to announce late Friday afternoon the possibility of a third furlough day per month, without pay, for state employees. Have a nice weekend, y'all!

Now I realize that there's not always much, if any, sympathy for state workers but there should at least be some compassion.

Consider those who are entry level Office Assistants. This is a class often filled by the young who are just getting started in their working lives. Oftentimes they are young, single mothers trying to carve out a decent life for their child(ren). They start out at between $2,074 and $2,123 a month which is nothing in California -- about $12 an hour. From that little bit they pay state and federal taxes, pay into their retirements as well as union dues, Social Security, Medicare and health benefits. It doesn't leave a whole lot and depending on where they live they may also have to pay for parking or pay for bus fare or vanpools.

Now imagine that same person losing about $300 a month (roughly 14%) of their already modest wages. Now they're down to a bit over $10 an hour but their obligations aren't reduced.

If I was still working as a senior manager my "hit" would have been just over $1,000 a month. We'd have survived but it would have been at the expense of savings and investments for our future. I guess I retired at just the right time but I can't help feeling very worried about and sorry for many of my former employees who are being and could be further affected by the Legislature's inability to do what they're paid to do and pass a reasonable budget that isn't all smoke and mirrors.

How much more are the state workers supposed to accept before state services and oversight collapse?
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Old 06-27-2009, 12:49 AM
 
Location: bay area
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I agree it hits the low paid workers hard. I know a few people that I go to school with who are low paid state workers and they are already making a low wage so it is really hard for them as well. I was talking to my elderly neighbor and she said that medical will no longer be paying for her dental care. So go figure.
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:12 AM
 
Location: California
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I do feel bad for them, but not as bad as I do for people who actually lost their job....permenently. The sad truth is that if a 3 day furlough makes you loose your house or car or starve you are living too close to the edge and should probably think about changing something.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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A 3 day furlough means our take home is down by 15%. We have clerks in our office who only MAKE $29K. You bet it makes a difference. I really resent scolding by people who make more than we do that we're not managing our affairs. Have YOU lost 15% of YOUR salary without notice.?? Do you have kids,mortgages,car payments? Unless you're walking in our shoes, maybe you could spare us your opinions on how we're coping. Thank you so very much.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Another point that seems to be missed is that these furloughs don't only affect the State workers,they affect everyone who does business or receives services from the State and needs timely action. Ain't gonna happen when 15% of the staff are gone.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: bay area
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A 3 day furlough means our take home is down by 15%. We have clerks in our office who only MAKE $29K. You bet it makes a difference. I really resent scolding by people who make more than we do that we're not managing our affairs. Have YOU lost 15% of YOUR salary without notice.?? Do you have kids,mortgages,car payments? Unless you're walking in our shoes, maybe you could spare us your opinions on how we're coping. Thank you so very much.
I agree with you. Some people are so insensitive and always have a negative comment. Anything can happen to anybody. Nobody wants to hear all that crap when their pay was cut. Whether losing a job or hours getting cut its almost the same thing and nets the same result: you are unable to pay your bills and start losing stuff. I hope nothing happens to people making insensitive comments.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:34 PM
 
Location: bay area
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Another point that seems to be missed is that these furloughs don't only affect the State workers,they affect everyone who does business or receives services from the State and needs timely action. Ain't gonna happen when 15% of the staff are gone.
I bet that the people making the most noise about state workers will be the main ones complaining when lines are long or phones dont get answered when they are trying to conduct business with the state.
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Old 06-27-2009, 08:45 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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I bet that the people making the most noise about state workers will be the main ones complaining when lines are long or phones dont get answered when they are trying to conduct business with the state.
No doubt! That's usually the way it is.
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Old 06-29-2009, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Heart of the San Joaquin
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I work for the State. There is a lot of dead wood. They need to get rid of these positions and people who don't have anything to do, or have the "I work for the state so I'll work really slow" mentality. They need to start with CPHCS (prison health care services). What a joke!
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Old 06-29-2009, 10:07 PM
 
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This furlough thing is really a blessing in disguise. Take the time off and enjoy it with your family. Go to the beach. Help your children with their homework. Volunteer your time at the local charity. These are things only time makes possible and money can't buy. I would say two 3-day weekend a month while still having a job to go to is a far better deal than the what unemployed are getting.
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