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View Poll Results: Based on California current woes do you think it's time that California should elect a Conservative
yes 18 48.65%
no 17 45.95%
other 0 0%
not sure 2 5.41%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Based on California current woes do you think it's time that California should elect a Conservative for federal senator

 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:06 AM
 
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Here's another link for information on Ben Gifford: 9/12 Candidate: Ben Gifford | U.S. Senate - CA | 912candidates.org (http://912candidates.org/blog/2009/07/02/912-candidate-ben-gifford-us-senate-ca/ - broken link)
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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The previous president showed us that conservatives can be just as if not more reckless than liberals when it comes to spending like there's no tomorrow.

Simply claiming to be a 'conservative' doesnt mean much these days.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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Originally Posted by 18Montclair View Post
The previous president showed us that conservatives can be just as if not more reckless than liberals when it comes to spending like there's no tomorrow.

Simply claiming to be a 'conservative' doesnt mean much these days.
The banking and mortgage problems were pure Democrat congressional problems. Do the research.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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I've read both of the articles you posted, and no I would not vote for him based on those.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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The banking and mortgage problems were pure Democrat congressional problems. Do the research.
And the blank check that is Iraq is all the GOPs doing. Do the research.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Banking and mortgage problems were created by both parties. Without going into all of the item by item issues (much of it is listed in Great Debates, for anyone who wants to read that stuff) the Democrats wanted to expand home ownership, and loosened some of the qualifying requirements. Republicans deregulated the financial markets, and oversight, allowing excessively "creative" financing packages to be marketed to investors without sufficient disclosure of risk.

Both can absorb plenty of blame.

California's problems aren't a federal issue.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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All the youngsters out there should learn about the Sagebrush Rebellion, as well as the GOP Presidential Primary of 1976. These among other things set the stage for the miracle of 1980.
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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The previous president showed us that conservatives can be just as if not more reckless than liberals when it comes to spending like there's no tomorrow.

Simply claiming to be a 'conservative' doesnt mean much these days.
Was he a "conservative?"
 
Old 07-07-2009, 09:53 AM
 
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And the blank check that is Iraq is all the GOPs doing. Do the research.
And Clinton did NOTHING to set the stage?
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