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Old 07-14-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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Old 07-14-2009, 11:59 PM
 
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A few years ago, all the filming was switching to Florida. Then those tax incentives dried up and the filming moved to... where?

As long as the unions have a stranglehold on a lot of the production, it's going to be hard for other states to make a lot of money off of film production. The companies will go there as long as the tax incentives last and when they dry up, they'll go somewhere else.

The story kind of reminds me of when MGM sold all of their props back in the early '90s. A few years later, they were running around town trying to buy that stuff back. There are a lot of skilled crafts and services in LA that you can't easily replicate in another location.
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Well it is a good thing our nation has the auto industry, It will never leave. Imagine someone in Japan, Korea, China, India , making cars?.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:32 PM
 
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Well it is a good thing our nation has the auto industry, It will never leave. Imagine someone in Japan, Korea, China, India , making cars?.

And that's just the direction this state is going - Detroit, Michigan with better weather.
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Old 07-15-2009, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Escondido, CA
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No surprise. Most Sci-Fi channel TV shows in the last 10 years have been filmed in British Columbia. Taxes or not, Golden State is too expensive.

Good news is, they won't last long in CT, it's even more expensive than CA. As soon as tax incentives dry up, film industry will move elsewhere.
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Old 07-16-2009, 01:16 AM
 
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What's really strange about all these states desiring film work is that most of the jobs end up going to California people who are shipped in to do the work.

Yeah, they pay to rent hotel rooms and to eat, but beyond that, most of the jobs are going to be filled by union guys who know how to do the jobs. They don't hire a lot of locals. I guess the states need to host these production crews to learn how the system works.

I see this move out of California as a loss for California -- but I don't see it as a gain for other states. It's a gain for the film production companies, and I don't blame them for taking the easy money at all.
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Palm Springs, CA
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What??? Blue states in financial trouble?

Who could have EVER imagined such a scenario? I mean, overtaxing & creating welfare-dependent communities SEEMS like such a good idea. . . maybe Michael Moore, John Stewart, & Bill Maher will save you. lol
Forbes ranked the 10 worst states for business a few months ago. Five states would be considered "blue" and the other five, "red".

Sorry, but putting Republicans in charge does not equate to a healthy economy.

The Worst States For Business - Forbes.com
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Old 07-16-2009, 06:45 AM
 
Location: In a Lonely Place
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Forbes ranked the 10 worst states for business a few months ago. Five states would be considered "blue" and the other five, "red".
That depends on how you "consider" them. The "blue/red" classifications that sprung up a few years back have dumbed down and balkanized American politics to an unprecedented degree and often obscure their more complicated dynamics. But for the sake of argument, I think it's safe to assume the "blue" states are Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Rhode Island, Maine, and Michigan; while the "red" states are Mississippi, Kentucky, Alaska, Louisiana, and West Virginia.

In every single one of these states, "blue" and "red" alike, the Democrats control at least one house of the state legislature; in half of them -- Wisconsin, Rhode Island, Maine, Louisiana, and West Virginia -- they control both chambers. Two of the "red" states, Kentucky and West Virginia, have Democrat governors. Each of the "red" states cited are reliably red in Presidential elections only; their statehouses and governors' mansions bounce back and forth between the parties, but usually favor the Democrats. Even Alaska had a Democrat governor just a few years ago.

Louisiana, in particular, is a case study in what happens to a state under "blue" governance. From the time Reconstruction ended up until just a couple of years ago, the Democrats owned Louisiana lock, stock, and barrel -- and for much of the 20th Century that meant liberal, wealth-redistributing Huey Long Democrats. Economic populism produced a Louisiana that to this day is desperately poor, with horrendous schools, rotting infrastructure, and the vilest, most corrupt politics in the nation. (California and Louisiana have a lot in common these days: in addition to the bad schools, infrastructure, and politics, they both have high outmigration of population and business and boast the bottom two bond ratings in America. Plus Louisiana, as one of the tax-credit states, has poached an impressive amount of film/TV production.)

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Sorry, but putting Republicans in charge does not equate to a healthy economy.
Not necessarily, no; certainly not when they're the types of "Republicans" who govern like Democrats (witness our own Ahnold.) Conservative philosophies on spending, taxation, and regulation are the key to a healthy economy; this is true regardless of which party implements them. It's just that Republicans advocate these philosophies more often than not, and sometimes even manage to get people in office who pursue them; while Democrats tend not to believe in them at all.

All of which is largely off-topic, yet at the root of the outmigration of California's film industry, along with so many others.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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Tyler Perry brought his studios to Atlanta and they expect to hire locals or course they will get some folks from CA but they will be bringing new comers into the fold too.
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Old 07-16-2009, 02:00 PM
 
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Forbes ranked the 10 worst states for business a few months ago. Five states would be considered "blue" and the other five, "red".

Sorry, but putting Republicans in charge does not equate to a healthy economy.

The Worst States For Business - Forbes.com
They had Steve Forbes on a local radio station this morning and he is very concerned the direction congress is taking the nation... he said it several times.
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