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07-23-2009, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanderer818
Yepper Skippy.
Pres O directed DEA to BACK OFF california "Dispensaries".
So Nita darlin', yer Supreme Leader is the one you should have a problem with. You did vote for him right? Even after knowing he admitted to Cocaine and Marijuana usage in his "youth".
Since that not a single 'Medical Marijuana Club" has been busted here in socal.
Look it up! I don't mind educating people but the info is all over the net.
The reason you see so many different names for the stores you can LEGALLY purchase Cannabis is because they have not really regulated it on a state wide basis. I say regulate and tax the snot out of it.
How much do you think that bottle of bourbon cost's from distillery to shelf? Or that 6 pack of Dumbwiser. The state and feds make a big ol' bucket of cash on that commodity. Before it's sold and after it's ingested.
That's a whole cottage industry in itself. DUI's RUIN peoples lives,,,,,
ergo,,,
Alcohol has ruined far more the Cannabis
I've been involved with this movement for 30 years. Never been busted for it in my life. Never sold as much as a joint in my life. And I'm 52.
And I'll never tire of this subject. The more you know, the better the decision you can make.
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Medical Marijuana is different than recreational marijuana. The DEA is not raiding medical marijuana dispensaries, but they are still proceeding on impeding recreational marijuana production and sale, as are US Customs and local and state law enforcement, among other agencies. There was no claim that they would allow recreational use to be legalized without recourse. Do not extrapolate on something, especially since it is still illegal by law federally. And hoping that it will stick is wishful thinking, since a change in regime or a change in heart by the current one can lead to a change in strategy very quickly.
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07-23-2009, 04:33 PM
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Let's start off with a little bit of history on this,,,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_215_(1996
So, if the majority of the people vote and approve a measure and you decide that you do not like it, does that make the majority wrong?
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07-23-2009, 04:42 PM
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Medical Marijuana is different than recreational marijuana. The DEA is not raiding medical marijuana dispensaries, but they are still proceeding on impeding recreational marijuana production and sale, as are US Customs and local and state law enforcement, among other agencies. There was no claim that they would allow recreational use to be legalized without recourse. Do not extrapolate on something, especially since it is still illegal by law federally. And hoping that it will stick is wishful thinking, since a change in regime or a change in heart by the current one can lead to a change in strategy very quickly.
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In the bold. Say what? You just blew any type of credibility you may have thought you had on this here board sir. It's the same dang thing.
Yer thinking Industrial Hemp. Big ol' difference from the MMJ which is the same marijuana used for recreational consumption.
Regime? Hey bub, I woke up in America this morning. Thought she was still a DEMOCRACY.
Shoot, I could be wrong, I was once before back in 75"
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07-23-2009, 04:58 PM
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07-23-2009, 05:08 PM
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Recent busts. One for the Mexican Cartel Growers.
All yer other links are from may and earlier.
Home work not stonedwork.
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07-23-2009, 05:13 PM
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07-23-2009, 05:21 PM
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So, are we done here?
Me? Yer boring me with more Propaganda. I'm going to take a nice nap now and check back later. Bet this thread dies quickly due to lack of an intelligent discourse.
Nighty-Night
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07-23-2009, 05:43 PM
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ichigo ichie 1 time 1 meeting unprecedented
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Sorry Huck, you threw me here. Please clear that up so a dumb ol' stoner can understand. Please.
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drug sales is not a good biz for the government to get into. |
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07-23-2009, 06:34 PM
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So, are we done here?
Me? Yer boring me with more Propaganda. I'm going to take a nice nap now and check back later. Bet this thread dies quickly due to lack of an intelligent discourse.
Nighty-Night
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First off, you're dense as all hell. I have stated multiple times that medical marijuana has been left alone more or less. Dispensaries require a prescription. There are guidelines issued by the state for how to grow and how to sell it.
Second, since Holder's statement, the DEA has been involved in at least one raid we know of(May in Bakersfield area).
Third, existing dispensaries means nothing to the Fed because they are there for medical purposes. If wholly legalized for recreational/OTC use and sale, there has been no promise at all from anyone at the Federal level that they would support this or allow it to happen. Holder merely stated that they will be leaving medical marijuana alone. Show me where he said that if legalized for recreational use he will bypass federal law and allow everyone to be able to purchase, grow, and sell marijuana freely. It is still a crime to possess marijuana in California without a prescription.
The only person lacking intelligent discourse is you, since you keep avoiding what I am saying and retorting with ad hominem attacks.
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07-23-2009, 06:49 PM
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IMHO these guys underestimate how many people will grow their own instead of paying taxes on third-party weed. It's not like booze, which you need sophisticated machinery to produce and you're still at risk of getting all sorts of stray chemicals. And the tax they propose ($50/oz) is at least twenty times higher than current tax on tobacco.
If it's decriminalized, we'll be getting a lot of tax revenue (direct and indirect) from tourists, but most regular smokers will just develop small cannabis patches in their backyards.
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The price would go down so low, a lot of people would pass up growing it themselves. Like with tobacco, you don't see people growing it in their homes do you? They would if tobacco was illegal. (just to give a simple hypothetical comparison - I don't know the botany of tobacco plants!)
This would strike a big blow to organized crime in California as well, ... well not just California, but it could cause a cascade effect bringing other states in on it. Mexico's problems would be reduced as the cartels would lose half of their profits. (and thus half of their power) Though the prison industry's lobbyists will fight hard to keep it illegal.
Legalizing gambling and/or prostitution across the state would be a big economic boost as well, and involve far less legal complications. Let communities ban it if they want, and brothels and casinos will set up shop in the areas that would prefer their $$$
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