Advice about Oakland & CA (San Jose, San Francisco: sales, restaurants, vs)

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by ssmaster

i don't know much about sacremento but i am interested in the arts for example live music acts local and national,classical music,broadway traveling shows(south pacific is in sf now), fine dining(chez panisse,boulevard camino).i think it would be hard to argue that sacremento has the same amenities as the oakland/sf area but i could be wrong

no ur not wrong.

[Puddy4LyF]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

no ur not wrong.

lolz

[Shope]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Oh please. Sacramento is seen as a cowtown but that's about it. Oakland is villified like no other place in NorCal. No comparison whatsoever.

Oaklanders are defensive because we know the damn truth--yet outsiders talk so authoritative as if they know better than us. And then they have the nerve to tell us we're wrong.

As if.


I've lived in both and Sac is nice, but Oakland feels much more like a big city.

"We know da troof" lol

Yes I agree Oakland has more of an "urban" area if that's what you are into. I would just say overall the Sacramento area is nicer and has less riff raff than Oaktown.

[Shope]

Originally Posted by City Boy

Yeah to each his own Sacramento nicer than Oakland? You couldn't pay me to live out there. The people I know that have moved to sac from the bay, did so due to housing cost not by choice. They come out here every weekend for things to do.

What does Oakland have that Sacramento doesn't. You guys got the A's and the Raiders I'll give you that even though you guys don't deserve the A's. Even when the A's go to the playoffs the Colliseum still doesn't sell out.

Also, if you lump yourself in with SF then you obviously win but I think we are talking about Oakland here.

[Shope]

Originally Posted by Majin

Vast minority. And they are probably snobby nose in the air bay area transplants who are too stupid/uninformed/snobby to realize they are wasting their time/money doing things in the bay are they can easily do here.

As someone who is heavy in the nightclub scene in Sac, I can tell you that I meet a lot of people that come up here from all around the bay, even the far away places like Berkeley and SJ (college students). No they don't have friends up here they just come to club.

I agree, there are a lot of snobby Bay Area transplants in Sac. They move here and then ***** and moan all the time. Go back to the Bay and **** already. The also act like somebody forced them to move here in the first place.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Shope

"We know da troof" lol

See what I mean.

I would just say overall the Sacramento area is nicer and has less riff raff than Oaktown.

Sacramento is less ghetto but Oakland is less trashy.

[Shope]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

Well, most of the people I'm talking about are black folks who live in North and South Natomas as well as in South Sacramento and Elk Grove.

I know one woman from my old neighborhood who comes back to Oakland every two weeks like clockwork just to do her hair and nails.

If you go to around Oakland on weekend nights you always run into Sac people at restaurants and bars.

Well our liquor stores, nail salons and chicken and waffle restaurants are definitley not as good as Oakland's.

[18Montclair]

Originally Posted by Shope

Well our liquor stores, nail salons and chicken and waffle restaurants are definitley not as good as Oakland's.

Actually your restaurants overall are in a league well below Oakland's.

[City Boy]

Originally Posted by Shope

What does Oakland have that Sacramento doesn't. You guys got the A's and the Raiders I'll give you that even though you guys don't deserve the A's. Even when the A's go to the playoffs the Colliseum still doesn't sell out.

Also, if you lump yourself in with SF then you obviously win but I think we are talking about Oakland here.

A's, Raiders, Warriors. I will lump it with SF, because it is the SF-oakland Bay Area, and I can see SF from my condo window. It takes me literally 15 mins to drive into SF 49ers across the bridge or Bart, Giants Across the Bay, San Francisco Across the Bay, Actually being ON the bay, better weather, more cultural events. Do I still need to go on? Oakland is not Isolated like Sacramento it comprises of the metropolitan area and no you can't compare it to Folsom, Elk Grove, Citrus Heights etc etc.

[Ultrarunner]

Originally Posted by Shope

What does Oakland have that Sacramento doesn't. You guys got the A's and the Raiders I'll give you that even though you guys don't deserve the A's. Even when the A's go to the playoffs the Colliseum still doesn't sell out.

Also, if you lump yourself in with SF then you obviously win but I think we are talking about Oakland here.

Oakland is blessed with a great climate... not too hot or cold.

We also have a world class port and scenic vistas and surrounded by lots of parks and open space...

Air Quality is also quite good as compared to Sacramento...

About the only downside I can see is Sacramento is close to the Sierra...