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Old 05-16-2012, 11:07 AM
 
Location: anywhere but Seattle
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Originally Posted by evergraystate View Post
MOD CUT read the article, you might learn something. The change in air quality over the last 30 years has nothing to do with the CARB mandated smog check program. Consumers replaced old cars with newer cleaner cars in the 80s and 90s which had catalytic converters and fuel injection instead of carburetors. These technologies were mandated by the federal government not California. Only a tiny proportion of the old vehicles taken off the road in California every year are due to a failed smog. Most of the older cars that pass the bi annual smog check actually FAILED a random road side smog inspection done by the state.
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResource...ith_report.pdf
This means that most smog checks done by licensed shops are fraudulent. Other countries look at California's program to learn how NOT to run an emissions testing scheme. Anybody that works in the industry knows its a complete joke at consumer's expense. On the other hand, California is populated by MOD CUT that can't be bothered to read a simple article so I'm sure the program will keep on failing for years to come.
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Originally Posted by Fontucky View Post
20-plus year old references in a 1995 study? Do you have anything current?
Maybe with bold and underline you'll have a little less trouble finding the 2010 article published by the state of California which I already linked. You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by ferretkona View Post
MOD CUT who believe everything they read.
MOD CUT. Even the state was forced to admit that the smog check program as it exists today is a farce, not you would ever bother to read.

Last edited by NewToCA; 05-16-2012 at 05:59 PM..

 
Old 05-16-2012, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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I'm beginning to see why they hate you so much in the SF forum. A simple, civil question results in snark and sarcasm.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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Please stop trying to demonstrate your terminal ignorance. Even the state was forced to admit that the smog check program as it exists today is a farce, not you would ever bother to read.
Ohhhh. You thought I was talking about you.
Great grammer there!
 
Old 05-16-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Columbia, California
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I see that some people would lead us to believe that the state should have just let people drive old smoking pieces of junk around. Other states are just catching on that the air we breathe should be cleaned up. Most people still believe global warming is a fraud.
CA has influenced the whole auto industry to clean up their act.

Bitter transplants rule!
 
Old 05-16-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Neato, we are arguing about smog.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I have sold & bought many cars "as is". Never had any problems so far. The muffler on my car has a good sized hole in it but i dont smell any of the fumes inside the car.
 
Old 05-16-2012, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Neato, we are arguing about smog.
Very true...hard to believe...but true.

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