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Old 10-22-2009, 09:30 AM
 
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California math scores among nation's worst | state, tests, students, scores, california - News - OCRegister.com

No matter. What's important is their environmental awareness, non-judgemental values, self esteem and other PC rot. Besides even if they are too stupid to earn a decent job they can always live off the labor of someone else. It's the new California way. Keep voting for the same Sacramento leaders and you will get more of the same outcome. Thats logic 101, but it's not taught in shcools.
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Old 10-22-2009, 09:43 AM
 
Location: GLAMA
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"In Orange County, fewer than 100 students take the test each year. The names of participating schools are not released."

Well that narrows it down.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Zurich, Switzerland/ Piedmont, CA
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"In Orange County, fewer than 100 students take the test each year. The names of participating schools are not released."

Well that narrows it down.
+1 for you.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:43 PM
 
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Frankly, I could care less how California performs. What matters to me is how the schools in my city perform. That has a direct correlation on my quality of life.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Frankly, I could care less how California performs. What matters to me is how the schools in my city perform. That has a direct correlation on my quality of life.
I'd rather go to the best school in California than an average school in the state with the best schools.
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Old 10-22-2009, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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No matter. What's important is their environmental awareness, non-judgemental values, self esteem and other PC rot. Besides even if they are too stupid to earn a decent job they can always live off the labor of someone else. It's the new California way. Keep voting for the same Sacramento leaders and you will get more of the same outcome. Thats logic 101, but it's not taught in shcools.
By the way, don't believe that everyone in California is non-judgemental. There are plenty of illegals and legal persons of foreign persuasion in California that pass judgement on conservatives and American values. This "celebrate diversity" crap is really just a smokescreen for a new way of thinking.

I agree with everything else in your post.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:00 PM
 
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Lies, damn lies and statistics. What these data don't show is the real problem in education: the performance gap. It isn't at all an issue of sub-par performance on the part of every student. Different students at the same school are scoring at the very top and the very bottom of the scoring rubrics. So what does that tell us about the quality of the schools? It tells us that the home education culture and expectations for academic success vary greatly among the different families whose kids attend that school. Students who are motivated to do well, do do well and the school itself is not a barrier to their success. Those who aren't motivated will likewise get out of it what they put into it. It's a poor craftsman who blames his tools.
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Ojai
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California's public school curriculum is standards-based, standards driven. Here's a little sample for you:

Mathematical Reasoning
1.0 Students make decisions about how to set up a problem:
1.1 Determine the approach, materials, and strategies to be used.
1.2 Use tools, such as manipulatives or sketches, to model problems.
2.0 Students solve problems and justify their reasoning:
2.1 Defend the reasoning used and justify the procedures selected.
2.2 Make precise calculations and check the validity of the results in the context of the problem.

And those are standards are for SECOND GRADE.

"...non-judgemental values, self esteem and other PC rot" does not happen to be among the zillions of standards listed. You can go to the CDE website and check it out for yourselves.
Curriculum & Instruction (CA Dept of Education)
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Old 10-23-2009, 10:31 PM
 
Location: 3814′45″N 12237′53″W
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California math scores among nation's worst | state, tests, students, scores, california - News - OCRegister.com

No matter. What's important is their environmental awareness, non-judgemental values, self esteem and other PC rot. Besides even if they are too stupid to earn a decent job they can always live off the labor of someone else. It's the new California way. Keep voting for the same Sacramento leaders and you will get more of the same outcome. Thats logic 101, but it's not taught in shcools.
And from the end of the article:

"This dichotomy is confusing, which is one reason states have said it's time for core content standards common for all states and an assessment aligned to those standards," he said.
Other standardized tests administered nationally, like the SAT and ACT consistently show students in Orange County outscoring their peers in the state and nationally. State averages on those tests are also generally higher than they were for Wednesday's national report card scores.
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Old 10-24-2009, 10:04 AM
 
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Frankly, I could care less how California performs. What matters to me is how the schools in my city perform. That has a direct correlation on my quality of life.
Amen. My son went to Davis schools and the API and SAT score averages are very high here. He and most of his friends got into excellent colleges, most with some scholarship help. The music program is killer; his high school orchestra won a silver medal at a high school competition at Carnegie Hall, and the school is listed as one of 24 Grammy Signature Schools in the U.S. My son placed into Multivariate Calculus his first semester of freshman year in college - so much for poor math training in CA schools. So the schools here are fantastic. And the reason is the parents support their kids' education and get involved in the schools, and the kids, even the foreign-born ones, speak English, so the teachers aren't struggling with a class of non-English speaking students from multiple backgrounds. The teachers can only do so much - good education depends on families valuing it and expecting their children to perform.
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