What's Happened to California??? (Oakland: construction, DMV, price)
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Or .... it's like watching someone you love go through a "healing crisis". When the person "emerges" from their illness, they are stronger and more balanced and "purified" or cleansed of the root cause(s) of their illness.
It's just another way to look at it.
That would be the best scenario and especially because we have children and grandchildren in CA we very much hope that's what occurs.
Unfortunately, our time is finite and I'm not sure we could wait it out. I hope I'm wrong on both counts!
I think those who are dissatisfied with their life in CA, are dissatisfied. I don't think changing geography will change that. I think that those who hate California are urbanites for the most part, and really, where they live is meaningless, urban, suburban, is the same all across this country.
Those who hate California, really need to get out the front door and do something.
Funny thing, somebody around here complained that illegals cost the CA economy 10 billion dollars. I hope all the whiners about illegals don't use tobacco, as tobacco use costs the CA economy 18 billion a year.
So, lets get rid of tobacco first, as it is the bigger problem, then we deal with illegals.. My guess? most of those who whine about illegals smoke. Oh, speaking of smoking, it seems that most everyone east of Colorado smokes. One of the greatest things about CA is the relative lack of smokers, and the fact that one can eat in a restaurant or drink in a bar without being annoyed by exhaled smoke.
Funny story, one of the most difficult peaks I ever climbed was Mt Mitchell in NC, although the elevation was lower than my Truckee home, and the trail was a paved walkway. All those eastern smokers, smoking their way along the trail nearly killed me.
Alright, now that you're off on a smoking kick and ignored the crux of the statistics quote; I do whine about illegals, I have gotten out the door and worked in the underbelly of society, and no, I don't smoke. Never have.
Thank you. It's what I intend to do. Texas doesn't make me happy. I've long since outgrown the place. And Austin . . . well, I think it's really, really overrated. It's fine for Texas, but I really do prefer Oakland. And yes, the common (mis)information about Texas is that things are just BOOMING. Governor Goodhair does his part to perpetuate the idea. I have no idea how to properly link the thread but you should check out the one in the Austin Forum questioning whether the job market is recovering. I found this:
"My family and I moved here a month ago and nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have printed out 37 pages with 45 companies per page and my daughter and I have been calling everyone of them and nothing they are not hiring. We have contacted every strip mall, nothing. Craigslist all trash, half of the jobs listed for government required BA degree, it is terrible. I have never seen anything like it. If anyone is thinking about moving here without a job and one that pays 17 or more an hour, please don't do it. Don't make the mistake that I have. I have lived in several places since 2007 and I believe this job market is the worst. Even target is not hiring, gas stations, stores, home depot you name it no openings anywhere. Oh there are one or two but it's bad it's really bad. A person would be better off on the beach somewhere. We love Austin but to go through this now after two and a half years of it all ready is way to much. So if anyone knows of a office management, administrative, project coordinator position let us know please."
The poster's name is austinhome.
And it's ridiculously humid here in the summertime. People try and diminish how much by saying, "Well Houston is worse." That may be so, but it's still humid. I have a huge head of spectacularly curly hair which doesn't like humidi-tah. Not one bit. So yeah . . .
Poor guy. Maybe the governor's perpetuating a myth to try to keep people in his state and keep the economy strong. I guess he would have been better off to try to secure a job rather than gamble and relocate the entire family.
I've made one day trips into Houston. I liked the openness of the area and the people but the humidity was awful! They called it "wearing the air".
Poor guy. Maybe the governor's perpetuating a myth to try to keep people in his state and keep the economy strong. I guess he would have been better off to try to secure a job rather than gamble and relocate the entire family.
I've made one day trips into Houston. I liked the openness of the area and the people but the humidity was awful! They called it "wearing the air".
The caveat? Most employers won't take you very seriously if you're applying from out of state. At least not for the type of positions this person was seeking. So do you stay where there's no work or hope for better where you're told there's work and chance it? It's all very Grapes of Wrathy. It's funny that you like Houston's "opennness." That's cool that you do . . . I'm not a fan. I use the term sprawl. Semantic choices. I'm a bigger fan of density. Strange coming from a Texan, huh? Wearing the air? Umm, no thank you.
It is not and never has been a matter of "hate." Rather, for many of us who were fortunate enough to live in California during its heyday, it's a matter of grave disappointment. I think it's akin to watching someone you love suffer a long and disabling illness.
Oh, I gotcha it's not the CA it was I know, but us dreamers need something to hold onto
The caveat? Most employers won't take you very seriously if you're applying from out of state. At least not for the type of positions this person was seeking. So do you stay where there's no work or hope for better where you're told there's work and chance it? It's all very Grapes of Wrathy. It's funny that you like Houston's "opennness." That's cool that you do . . . I'm not a fan. I use the term sprawl. Semantic choices. I'm a bigger fan of density. Strange coming from a Texan, huh? Wearing the air? Umm, no thank you.
Yeah I get that impression from online. I mean, I'm sure if you were a registered nurse and another area was hurting for something specialized you could bag a job before going there but it might be hard otherwise.
I tried a whole bunch of job engines including Monster, Indeed, CareerBuilder and got more spam and crap than any legitimate leads. Truly more trouble than it was worth.
I used to live in Oakland. And I love it there. Love it there more than anything Austin has to offer. People were never rude to me, I made great friends there, just went back to visit and people were STILL exceptionally nice to me. So that whole "Bay Area people are so rude thing" . . . if you're rude to them I guess. People were always helpful, kind, and willing to answer my questions. It would be a wish come true for me to go BACK to Oakland. Austin's economy sucks. Have you been here? You've bought into the Kiplinger's hype if you believe that the economy here is healthy. Wages are depressed due to the excess number of applicants put out by UT Austin, rents are the highest in Texas, public transportation is abysmal, if you drive be prepared to sit in traffic for hours, and you can come and stay here during the summer when it's a million degrees outside. I'm sick of it. So sure, the economy is great if you want to work a dead-end service sector job or a half-ass job working for the government--oh wait! There are now government hiring freezes. Ahem.
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Wow, you lived in Oakland and didn't get raped, mugged, or murdered? LOL! Some non-Californians on this forum would have everyone believe that is absolutely impossible.
Just goes to show you everyone has their own perspective, and even their own "picture" of what some place is like.
Oh, I gotcha it's not the CA it was I know, but us dreamers need something to hold onto
And keep dreamin' jc76 ... there is so much that is good here (despite the current woes of the state) and so much natural beauty and the Pacific ocean, even though beneath the surface it too is in crisis (yes, 'tis true), is most revitalizing and one of the most (hmmmm, the most) wonderful aspect of California imo ... and it's still here waving to you all the way out there in Indiana.
That would be the best scenario and especially because we have children and grandchildren in CA we very much hope that's what occurs.
Unfortunately, our time is finite and I'm not sure we could wait it out. I hope I'm wrong on both counts!
I hope so too.
I tend to see the current nationwide crisis in the same way.
If people can keep from becoming overwhelmed with fear and cynicism, we might just have a chance.
Thanks Coyoteskye! That was the most positive CA reply I have had in the last 6 months
I'm keepin' the dream alive, just shoveling snow and being bored while doing it
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it's not the CA it was I know, but us dreamers need something to hold onto
