Do any liberals dislike California?

[Clarks]

Clarks is a liberal. He digs illegal immigrants.

Still a grouchy old cuss, but a liberal.

2+2= 143 eh?

It is irrelevant whether I "dig" or like or hate with a passion illegals. They work, they provide food you and I both eat.

The subject is rather like defecation, some people like defecation, some people dislike defecation, but, we all defecate, "dig" it or hate it.

[Screw Sacramento]

Originally Posted by Clarks

2+2= 143 eh?

It is irrelevant whether I "dig" or like or hate with a passion illegals. They work, they provide food you and I both eat.

The subject is rather like defecation, some people like defecation, some people dislike defecation, but, we all defecate, "dig" it or hate it.

wtf on that last part

You may see it as them providing food we eat. A conservative, on the other hand, usually sees it as them illegally taking social benefits our taxes paid for.

[Huckleberry3911948]

i love the beach
i love the people
but they spend like drunks
AIG guna chase us up the steeple.

[Clarks]

These arguments are curious;

You may see it as them providing food we eat. A conservative,

The farm workers are employed largely by Conservative Obama hating Conservative Republican growers, a liberal grower is as scarce as indoor plumbing in Afghanistan.


on the other hand, usually sees it as them illegally taking social benefits our taxes paid for.

Just what taxes do you think the illegals do not pay?
They pay income tax just like white people, they pay sales tax just like white people, they pay property tax just like white people.

The idea that illegals don't pay taxes is just nonsense.

You seem to be a young person just setting out on life's road, it may behoove you to take some history courses. It is nearly impossible to remain a conservative with an understanding of history and historical forces at work in our society.

[Screw Sacramento]

Not that young and inexperienced (almost qualify by age discrimination guidelines) but I'll take that as a compliment. So thank you.

[Curmudgeon]

I believe it was Winston Churchill who said, “If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

[Clarks]

Funny thing, I was a Goldwater conservative at twenty, and am still a Goldwater conservative, the problem lies with the modern conservative, they seem to have lost their collective marbles.

It is nearly impossible to know history, and remain a conservative.

and,

Name a positive contribution of conservatives to America, this would be something physical, not "I think they think that something is good, or bad" But something like winning the Revolutionary War, which the liberals did, or inventing the United States, which is something the liberals did, or winning the Civil War and freeing the slaves, which is something the liberals did.
Or winning the fight against Fascism, which the liberals did.

[WeakandDizzy]

Originally Posted by bulldogdad

Christopher Ranch California Garlic.

I am a native Californian now living in North Carolina. I have it from good sources that Christopher Ranch actually imports a fair amount of garlic from China in order to be competitive from a price standpoint.