East Coast vs. West Coast Lifestyles (Fontana, Barstow: neighborhood, school, living in)
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You should also display photos of someone being scorched, dripping sweat by the burning sun in July in California and someone enjoying a picnic or something in New England in July LOL
The only cultural value in the humid rainy east is that you can stop on a roadway, walk 20 feet into the woods and do your dooty. In much of CA it is a half mile or more hike for privacy.
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scorched, dripping sweat by the burning sun in July
This is one of my favorite posts (by stillkit) on all of city-data-forum and i feel like bringing it up once again ... maybe it's appropriate for this thread.
"Never forget that the west coast was, and is, a barrier. It stopped the western migration of our history cold, dead in its tracks.
Those who perpetually moved west were the disaffected, the non-conformists, the recalcitrant, those seeking relief from responsibilities and expectations or running from the law. Those moving west were after a new life, a new beginning, a fresh start separated by a continent from the old life, from the old parameters and restraining conformity.
It still is. New generations head west for the same reasons their forefathers headed west, and they join the progeny of those previous immigrants. All of them have washed up against the Pacific Ocean and stopped. There's no place else to go.
That's why the west coast is different from the rest of America, and California in particular. The opportunities in Washington and Oregon are pretty much limited to those areas west of the Cascades, but California was, and still is, wide open, from the high deserts to the inland valleys to the coast; California is the Mecca, the Promised Land, the place where a person can begin again.
It has attracted, does attract, and WILL attract the detrious of the continent; the good alongside the bad, the decent people and the criminals, the lazy and the industrious. Anyone wanting to start over has come to California and they'll continue to come because they have no other place to go."
True, and people seem to not realize, the republican that MA replaced Kennedy's seat with, isn't that much right-wing, or he better not be, because the voters in MA won't put up with it if he is ( remember, MA is the most liberal state in the nation--even ahead of Oregon & Vermont ). If Scott Brown runs to the right on most issues, he'll serve one term and I think he is aware of that too...the only reason he got elected in the first place was because Martha Coakley--the dem nominee in MA took it for granted that she'd win and just snubbed her supporters by taking a vacation while Brown was still campaigning, and even with that and Coakley's inconsistencies during her campaign, Brown still barely beat her by like 5%, so MA isn't nearly as conservative as those like to think it would be.
One more note about west and east coasts. The east coast people seem to be more intense on the love of their sports teams--they wear the feelings on the sleeve ( I have always been a Phillies fan so I am fully aware of this! ) whereas yes, on the west coast, it is more laid-back and it is like "oh well, we lost, there's always tomorrow". Maybe this is just with baseball, not sure about the other sports, but you don't see the west coast sports teams as nearly as fanatical or loud and into the games as the east coast fans.
well,san diego may be the exception-chargers and padres fans here are a ruckus bunch,man!
even my son and husband-who are normally pretty mellow types.
Also,i didnt read each reply,but orange county is conservative,so if OP wants more right of center,that would be the place. San Diego is actually very conservative and is af ormer military retirement area [coronado island],though SD's demographic is changing and it's becoming more liberaly in flavor-but overall,it's a conservative area and in my experience pretty active christian groups of all kinds. The beach communities are what most people see and experience,but in SD county,they are the exception.
Very little sweat in the dry heat parts of California, which are everywhere but the coastal strip and basins. It also stays quite cool in those areas, as a rule.
Try again.
How about doing yard work in Barstow, CA in July ? You could be in very good shape and you're still going to sweat quite a bit.
My point is, the same pic could have also shown a pic of a car stuck in a 10 mile long traffic jam in Calif in Jan and because of the snow in New England in January, very little traffic. It's all relative.
The only cultural value in the humid rainy east is that you can stop on a roadway, walk 20 feet into the woods and do your dooty. In much of CA it is a half mile or more hike for privacy.
in Death Valley.
absolutely not my experience! I quite enjoy my july day at the beach in san dieog,or my hike in the redwoods on the misty,moist,80 degree mendocino coast,thankyou! and i do not miss my sweltering MA summer nightwhich doesnt even cool down for sleeping. And in traffic,I have air conditioning,and don't do yardwork in barstow in the middle of the day,anymore than i would do it in new england,which is pretty warm in the summer.
You really cannot underestimate snow and cold and winter. And MA has some of the worst traffic i know of,in the boston metro area,connecticut,etc. True,if OP is in a more rural area,it will be quite nice. And in CA,set up one's life to avoid it,which is possible,though not as common.
well,san diego may be the exception-chargers and padres fans here are a ruckus bunch,man!
even my son and husband-who are normally pretty mellow types.
Also,i didnt read each reply,but orange county is conservative,so if OP wants more right of center,that would be the place. San Diego is actually very conservative and is af ormer military retirement area [coronado island],though SD's demographic is changing and it's becoming more liberaly in flavor-but overall,it's a conservative area and in my experience pretty active christian groups of all kinds. The beach communities are what most people see and experience,but in SD county,they are the exception.
I have seen from a few sources that Bakersfield, CA and yes, Irvine, CA are two of the most conservative areas of the country.
How about doing yard work in Barstow, CA in July ? You could be in very good shape and you're still going to sweat quite a bit.
There is a big difference between doing yard work in Barstow in July and doing yard work in the East in July, in Barstow your body's cooling mechanism works, in the east with the humidity, it don't work so well. Miserable to do hard work outside in humid climates.
There is a big difference between doing yard work in Barstow in July and doing yard work in the East in July, in Barstow your body's cooling mechanism works, in the east with the humidity, it don't work so well. Miserable to do hard work outside in humid climates.
I agree, but take my example I originally used about a car stuck in traffic in Calif.
but you don't see the west coast sports teams as nearly as fanatical or loud and into the games as the east coast fans.
We have our moments. (fast forward to 6:32 if the fans before that aren't loud enough for you).
And allow me to be the first to say... "I'm SO THANKFUL West Coast (well, So Cal) fans aren't like Philly (and Eagles) fans, the most annoying fans on the continent.
yep,like i said friendly but reserved in NE.I wouldn't say they are more 'deep'however. But,perhaps more sincere in that once they finally warm up,it's a long-term investment type of thing.
I find CA very sincere too,in that I don't expect that I will necessarily become buddies w/everyone i have a chat with. I really don't care. Also,my spouse and my good friends are CA natives,and they are very different from the norm-so I think CA's 'facade' is due to the millions of people who move here with their CA plan-ie,what they come here for....and planting roots isn't necessarily part of that plan. NE'er's are very rooted,and the traditions are part of what are so great about it,but they can also feel stifling.
Just saying one man's trash is another man's treasure...not that either place is trashy. but the same factors can truly be seen differently by each individual.
I love CA,having been born and raised in NE(massachusetts),and in CA for 10 years [sfo and so cal]. LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT.
I love NE,too. Either place is an excellent option,IMO. Both are expensive,and yes,real estate in maine might be cheaper,but there are many other expenses that come with living there.
Maine is a blue state,but it's more common sense working class blue state,than college student fly by night liberal. sorry to offend anyone-just trying to contrast. And in either area,you will find liberals or conservatives,and a good chunk of libertarians,too.
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