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Old 02-06-2010, 12:15 PM
 
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This is not meant to be a Californian-bashing thread so don't take it as such.

Outside of your own state, where are Californians NOT moving too?

I keep reading on the CD forum questions from Californians moving to place XY and Z. I also come across threads from other states asking why so many Californians are relocating to their part of the country. What I want to know is where are Californians NOT moving too?

California has it's share of problems. High taxes, but other states have higher taxes. Illegal immigration, but other states have that too. High COL. But there are other places with a high COL or if their COL is lower, so is the pay of the jobs. Overcrowding. (But other places may have too few people which would = loneliness)

I'm not asking about people who are needing to leave because their company is transferring them or because they are military. But I'm asking about people who are wanting to leave California for "greener pastures". Where are you NOT finding it?

 
Old 02-06-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska or Iowa maybe?
 
Old 02-06-2010, 12:37 PM
 
Location: State of Jefferson coast
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"Californian" is a problematic term. California residency is a transient experience for tens of millions of people. A lot of people spend a few years...or maybe just a few months... in the state at some point in their life journey. They weren't born there, and they won't die there. At what point does any hypothetical resident attain the status of "Californian?"
 
Old 02-06-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by westcoastcountryboy View Post
This is not meant to be a Californian-bashing thread so don't take it as such.

Outside of your own state, where are Californians NOT moving too?

I keep reading on the CD forum questions from Californians moving to place XY and Z. I also come across threads from other states asking why so many Californians are relocating to their part of the country. What I want to know is where are Californians NOT moving too?

California has it's share of problems. High taxes, but other states have higher taxes. Illegal immigration, but other states have that too. High COL. But there are other places with a high COL or if their COL is lower, so is the pay of the jobs. Overcrowding. (But other places may have too few people which would = loneliness)

I'm not asking about people who are needing to leave because their company is transferring them or because they are military. But I'm asking about people who are wanting to leave California for "greener pastures". Where are you NOT finding it?
You realize that California has 38 million people, or 1 out of 8 Americans (or 12-13% of the US population). Odds are that on ALL domestic migration statistics, California will be overrepresnted simply due to size. You're going to find Californians all over the United States. To prove this, the IRS compiles migration statistics every year, and Californians almost on the top 10 list for every single state.

SOI Tax Stats - Free Migration Data Downloads (http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/article/0,,id=212718,00.html - broken link)

SOI Tax Stats - Migration Data - California (http://www.irs.gov/taxstats/bustaxstats/article/0,,id=213845,00.html - broken link) (California specific)

California (2007-2008)

Top 5 Inflow States (people coming in)
1. Texas: 53,284
2. Arizona: 44,635
3. Nevada: 41,089
4. Washington: 36,102
5. New York: 34,836 (NY is pushed down to #5 because transplants from this state don't have as many exemptions. My feeling; most are rich business people)


Top 5 Outflow States (where people leave to)
1. Texas 97,595
2. Arizona 66,449
3. Nevada 58,878
4. Washington 52,965
5. Oregon 41,575

Californians seem to move largest in numbers to other Western States first, before moving out of the region. Due to most of these states sizes (especially the disparity between the population of Nevada and California), these states feel inundated with Californians (except for Texas). In the extreme case (Nevada), Californians that moved in last year represented 2% of Nevada's population!

Bottom 10 Outflow States from California
10. Nebraska: 4,311
9. Mississippi 3,632
8. Wyoming: 2,762
7. New Hampshire: 1,944
6. South Dakota: 1,896
5. Maine: 1,784
4. Rhode Island: 1,694
3. North Dakota: 1,226
2. West Virginia: 931
1. Delaware: 890
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:08 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Yeah! Califoreigners don't come to Missouri. Lousy weather, boring scenery, waaaay to religious, backwards, a whole population in need of dental work, ignorant sounding accents, no jobs and worse pay.

Now if you like single-wides, tarpaper shacks and a lifetime's worth of worn out, rusting cars in the front yard along with chickens and dirty, barefoot children then it might be just the place for y'all.

We'uns don't care much for strangers, neither an' we all has guns.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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They're probably not going in huge numbers to Michigan or other states with equally bad or worse employment rates. Other than that, Californians are probably moving pretty much everywhere. Many Californians also have family ties elsewhere, so I would assume that in many cases family connections are also a big draw.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Yeah! Califoreigners don't come to Missouri. Lousy weather, boring scenery, waaaay to religious, backwards, a whole population in need of dental work, ignorant sounding accents, no jobs and worse pay.

Now if you like single-wides, tarpaper shacks and a lifetime's worth of worn out, rusting cars in the front yard along with chickens and dirty, barefoot children then it might be just the place for y'all.
Sounds like Ramona or Lakeside Ca. LMAO!
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:32 PM
 
Location: GLAMA
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This lifelong Californian isn't going anywhere, but if I had to, I wouldn't consider anywhere in the Bible Belt or anywhere with humid summers. Both choices are for personal comfort.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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This lifelong Californian isn't going anywhere, but if I had to, I wouldn't consider anywhere in the Bible Belt or anywhere with humid summers. Both choices are for personal comfort.
I agree, If I leave Ca. Washington is the only other place for me.
 
Old 02-06-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: GLAMA
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That's where I went for 3 years. Spokane.
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