04-30-2010, 05:45 PM
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The racial profiling argument comes to the forefront right away on this AZ law, but would Arizonans (or Californians, for that matter) be upset by an equal number of Estonians crossing the border? You bet they would.
Among other issues, a huge matter is one of national security. If there's an easy way into this country for Al Qaeda to smuggle in anthrax or a "dirty weapon", wouldn't it be prudent to effectively close the border and enforce the federal law which is already in place?
AZ asked for federal help numerous times regarding the border. They decided to take matters into their own hands.
Now, to get into the shoes of the "illegal immigrant": Imagine you're an American who can't find a decent-paying job here and go off to teach English in Japan. Japan decides to go full bore and racial profile, looking for "round eyes" who are living in Japan illegally. Do the thousands of other "round eyes" (read: white European types) go ape**** and march on May 1st or 5th, claiming racism? Does Korea decide to boycott Japan for its unfair treatment of illegal residents?
So, for local government in California to be up in arms about this is bullcrap. AZ is a state in a republic where the republic doesn't uphold its own laws.
My point of view is one who has been a legal immigrant who jumped through the hoops to be a legal resident and I would never stay in a country illegally (had the opportunity and didn't do it).
The incredible mentality of entitlement of activists speaking about amnesty pizzes me off.
Now.....
taking a position on the other side: I would like to see this or any other administration look at legal immigration policy and make it possible for workers to come here and work.
But....there's an interest in letting things stay status quo, and that's the real point that's not be looked into.
04-30-2010, 05:55 PM
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Predictably the mayor of Los Angeles has condemned the Arizona law & urges those opposed to the law to join the annual May Day march that is expected to be 100,000 strong. The LA City Council is preparing an official boycott of Arizona.
The dumbass mayor probably doesn't realize that the city of LA's Dept. of Water and Power buy most or their electricity from Arizona.
Go ahead, mayor, boycott. See how many happy illegals you'll have crying for their power.
04-30-2010, 06:20 PM
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Predictably the mayor of Los Angeles has condemned the Arizona law & urges those opposed to the law to join the annual May Day march that is expected to be 100,000 strong. The LA City Council is preparing an official boycott of Arizona.
Nationwide, calls for boycotts of the Arizona Diamondback baseball games both home and away games. Both the governors of Texas [Republican] and Colorado [Democrat] stated oppostion of the Arizona law.
Rick Perry (Texas) would definitely be amongst the first to oppose it. He's pro business and he realizes immigrants offer a lot in the manufacturing field, and it makes our country competitive, which causes less outsourcing to China.
I'm with Rick Perry on this one.
04-30-2010, 09:23 PM
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A compasionate one. You can not say no to anyone that enters the ER. Still a cost is associated with the help.
LOL...if you can create a law that circumvents federal law on immigration, surely you folks can invent a law that legalizes kicking non-whites who look like wetb***s out of the ER.
04-30-2010, 09:28 PM
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Considering that Arizona (and California for that matter) used to be part of Mexico, it is hilarious to see Americans of European descent calling the original inhabitants of these lands "illegal".
04-30-2010, 09:54 PM
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Considering that Arizona (and California for that matter) used to be part of Mexico, it is hilarious to see Americans of European descent calling the original inhabitants of these lands "illegal".
You have a right to a laugh....but only if you're Anasazi.
04-30-2010, 10:35 PM
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The incredible mentality of entitlement of activists speaking about amnesty pizzes me off.
The only group with the incredible entitlement mentality is white Americans who think they can annex/invade any piece of territory and call the inhabitants of that territory "illegal aliens". This mentality is deeply ingrained in white culture. They really believe they are the master race and they are entitled to a piece of your land. Ask native Hawaiians what they think of the overthrow of their kingdom and annexation of their country by the US. The "master race" is a bunch of land grabbers.
04-30-2010, 10:46 PM
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I'm glad you cite native Hawaiians. Know much about the internecine wars among the various island groups in Hawaii to 'land grab'?
You're painting with a mighty broad brush to say that white Americans consider themselves the master race, etc...
I suppose you don't respect the laws of other countries either, since most ancient native peoples aren't currently wielding political power in their respective lands of origin.
04-30-2010, 11:02 PM
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I'm glad you cite native Hawaiians. Know much about the internecine wars among the various island groups in Hawaii to 'land grab'?
You're painting with a mighty broad brush to say that white Americans consider themselves the master race, etc...
I suppose you don't respect the laws of other countries either, since most ancient native peoples aren't currently wielding political power in their respective lands of origin.
Hawaii had a reigning monarchy that the US overthrew so it could grab the islands for its lucrative plantations. That's fact. Arizona, CA, and the rest of the southwest belonged to Mexico. They were ceded to the US as spoils of war. That's fact.
The sense of entitlement of the white race that has dominated US politics for a long time even had a name: Manifest Destiny. Is this painting with a broad brush? Nope, just calling a spade a spade.
04-30-2010, 11:11 PM
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I'm glad you cite native Hawaiians. Know much about the internecine wars among the various island groups in Hawaii to 'land grab'?
You're painting with a mighty broad brush to say that white Americans consider themselves the master race, etc...
I suppose you don't respect the laws of other countries either, since most ancient native peoples aren't currently wielding political power in their respective lands of origin.
If the US can grab other people's lands, these people can grab them back (via what you might call "illegal immigration"). All is fair in love and land-grabbing.
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