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Old 05-14-2010, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Rhody
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Default Santa Barbara surfer

Regarding the recent murder of that surfer, I'm sure he is at peace, I was surprised to learn about the many gangs, even in a city like Santa Barbara. For a nice, relatively affluent, small city of 88,978- that's pretty significant. So I checked the 2007 stats- nothing too different from the the income/demographics here in RI cities and state overall, more or less. Two things did jump out a bit: 1) renters paying over 30% of their income on rent was even higher than around here, nearly 60% -wow. 2) Even less opportunity for trade-type jobs such as manufacturing, that would attract a young man. Yet, we just don't have gangs here in the East like out West, and I've concluded it's largely a Mexican cultural thing that never took too strong of a hold in the Peurto Rican/Dominican community here.
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Old 05-14-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: LA
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it's not just mexicans, it's also people from el salvador. you have to remember that el salvador was going through a civil war when immigrants started coming to the US in huge numbers. these people were used to violence as part of their daily lives and obviously they continued this trend once in CA. MS13 is a salvadorian gang not a mexican gang.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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If you don't believe there aren't any Dominican street gangs out there, then you should look into the Trinitarios - based in the east coast. Gangs aren't restricted to one area of the country or a specific race.
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Old 05-15-2010, 06:10 AM
 
Location: Rhody
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Yes, I retract my assumptions based on yesterday's NYT article, and also the fact that Santa Barbara has a larger % minority and high rate of poverty. What is different though, and unlike any city on the East Coast that I'm aware of outside the greater Miami or NY area, unlike Newburgh, NY- Santa Barbara seems to be a pretty nice place to live, a fantastic place to live, overall.

Agents Raid Gangs in Newburgh, N.Y. - NYTimes.com
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Old 05-17-2010, 01:59 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Yes, I retract my assumptions based on yesterday's NYT article, and also the fact that Santa Barbara has a larger % minority and high rate of poverty. What is different though, and unlike any city on the East Coast that I'm aware of outside the greater Miami or NY area, unlike Newburgh, NY- Santa Barbara seems to be a pretty nice place to live, a fantastic place to live, overall.

Agents Raid Gangs in Newburgh, N.Y. - NYTimes.com
Every area has its problems. Crimes have happened in Beverly Hills. Being a "nice" or a "rich" area (or what is perceived to be as such) doesn't mean you are going to be safe.
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Old 05-17-2010, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Rhody
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And some more serious than others, doesn't mean it is ok
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Old 05-17-2010, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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And some more serious than others, doesn't mean it is ok
Where did I say it was ok? I didn't even specify what type of crime has occurred in Beverly Hills, I just said that there were crimes. Now you're just grasping for straws.

ETA: People have been killed in Beverly Hills. It may not have the murder rate of say, Compton, but murder is a serious crime in my book. Though, I am not inclined to tell a victim of any crime that it wasn't "that serious," as it's all about perspective.
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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I would say that the homeless problem in Santa Barbara is far more worse than the gang problem. But then the gangs don't bother me when I am in Santa Barbara. I can undertand why a homeless person would want to live in Santa Barbara. Heck if I was Homeless i would live there. Not so much that they bother me is that they hang out in the parks that I like to take my kids to. The city ends up leaving many of the public restrooms locked up. Big problem when you have little kids. Also many of the bathrooms that are unlocked are not too clean because of the homeless.

It is funny when this issue comes up though. Seems that Oxnard is safer than Santa Barbara and we have 200,000 people in Oxnard.
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