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Unread 07-14-2010, 02:37 PM
 
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BTW WHOEVER SAID PHILLIPMORRIS WUD TAKE A HIT YOU ARE COMPLETELY WRONG IM IN RICHMOND ,VA I KNO PEOPLE WHO WORK AT PHILLIP MORRIS THEY WOULD DEFINATLY BENEFIT FROM THE LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA THEY ALL READY HAVE MACHINES READY FOR PACKAGING AND MASS PRODUCTION OF MARIJUANA CIGZ,, i support the decriminalization of weed *** da gov tryna make dat money all these " drug dealers" are breaking da law for the greater good of the people! Asfar as the ranchers stop being ******* you dnt want them on ur land make em get off otha den dat dont complain this is the USA not france we are suppose to be Men not ******* i mean a few people get hurt by da cartell lets all cry wen u prob aint kno dem bottom line **** Happens!!
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Unread 07-16-2010, 01:04 PM
 
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Default In the real world, not Orange County..

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Okay so answer these questions then:
- Would you let your finances be handled by someone on Cocaine or Heroin?

- Would you be okay for your daughter, nephew, or any child related to you being in the company of people who are high on Heroin or Cocaine?
If you are using a Wall Street investment firm to handle your money there is a GOOD chance your finances ARE being handled by someone on cocaine. To answer your other question, no it would not be ok with me for the children of my brothers and sisters to be in the company of people who are high on heroin or cocaine, but it's also not ok with me that they be in the company of people that are drunk or under the influence of perscription drugs that would impair their judgement or performance. I'm also not a big fan of second hand smoke. Then again, since my brothers and sisters all have grown children of legal age, there s very little I or they can do to influence them in their choice of companions beyond the best upbringing they could afford to give them and the "benefit" of my advice over the years. That, in itself is not a justification for banning any of those substances for those individuals who wish to use them. In regard to smoking for example, through mostly reasonable restrictions, we've managed to restrict smokers to some places outdoors and to their homes. Marijuana laws, where some use is allowed, also attempt to regulate its use so that it is not used in public, in automobiles, and such. I see no reason to continue to treat these other drugs as criminal activities, with the resultant effects that brings, when restricting their use to certain places and times and treating drug addiction as a medical problem costs less and can have a better result. Any Drug Rehab can easily give you stats that will show they are the better alternative in every way for a society that is intent on harm reduction, and not simply punishment. That "War On Drugs" has worked so well for us so far.
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Unread 07-16-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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Default In the real world, not Orange County..

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Okay so answer these questions then:
- Would you let your finances be handled by someone on Cocaine or Heroin?

- Would you be okay for your daughter, nephew, or any child related to you being in the company of people who are high on Heroin or Cocaine?
If you are using a Wall Street investment firm to handle your money there is a GOOD chance your finances ARE being handled by someone on cocaine. To answer your other question, no it would not be ok with me for the children of my brothers and sisters to be in the company of people who are high on heroin or cocaine, but it's also not ok with me that they be in the company of people that are drunk or under the influence of perscription drugs that would impair their judgement or performance. I'm also not a big fan of second hand smoke. Then again, since my brothers and sisters all have grown children of legal age, there is very little I or they can do to influence them in their choice of companions beyond the best upbringing they could afford to give them and the "benefit" of our collective advice over the years. That, in itself is not a justification for banning any of those substances for those individuals who wish to use them. In regard to smoking for example, through mostly reasonable restrictions, we've managed to restrict smokers to some places outdoors and to their homes. Marijuana laws, where some use is allowed, also attempt to regulate its use so that it is not used in public, in automobiles, and such. I see no reason to continue to treat these other drugs as criminal activities, with the resultant effects that brings, when restricting their use to certain places and times and treating drug addiction as a medical problem costs less and can have a better result. Any Drug Rehab can easily give you stats that will show they are the better alternative in every way for a society that is intent on harm reduction, and not simply punishment.
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Unread 07-18-2010, 10:14 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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If this is the case, why are we wasting our time on this proposition?
California can't legalize marijuana - latimes.com
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Unread 07-19-2010, 11:58 AM
 
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If this is the case, why are we wasting our time on this proposition?
California can't legalize marijuana - latimes.com
This is an opinion of a person with the cedentials to offer his opinion as expert. However, it is still an opinion, and could be wrong. It is also possible that if the law passes in California it will prompt a court battle (as in AZ.) where the federal government would have to support it's conflicted position on marijuana. For example, the federal government says that marijuana is a schedule one drug, which means it has no medical use and is highly subject to abuse. At the same time government studies contradict this view, and in addition, the University of Mississippi, under a federal program, has been supplying six patients with marijuana for decades. While the AMA has petitioned the DEA to reevaluate marijuana to a schedule two drug so additional research may be done. There have been instances where state pressure has cause federal law to change, so this law could provide more pressure in that direction. It is still a worthwhile exercise if it results in more discussion and a change in federal law. The excuse of international treaties is really a hollow one since it is the United States that has pushed these treaties on other nations in our ever expanding drug war. I also object to the authors conclusion that marijuana prices will go down at the same time that canadians and out of state users would increase demand. Any increase in demand, plus specific taxes on sale would tend to drive prices up, but no greater than the price where it is illegal, since that market would be an additional supply. Simple economics.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 07:10 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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California Might Legalize Pot, for Real This Time - Newsweek
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Unread 08-12-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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yes! Do it!
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Unread 08-12-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Mission Viejo, CA / San Rafael, CA
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To answer your other question, no it would not be ok with me for the children of my brothers and sisters to be in the company of people who are high on heroin or cocaine,
Check & Mate. That's all that needed to be said.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 09:37 AM
 
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Check & Mate. That's all that needed to be said.
Taking a PARTIAL quote out of context does not prove your point.
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