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Old 02-25-2013, 08:03 AM
 
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If I get a class A either new or used what fuel type engine is my best choice?Seems price is about the same now a days for the fuel.Also what Brand is the best rated on a deisel engine as far as repair history?
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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While gas may be cheaper, a diesel will get better millage.
A diesel will get you over that mountain with less strain.
A diesel doesn't vapor loc in high altitudes like a gas engine can.

A cummins engine would be my first choice.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:18 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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depends on your desires, and your travel plans. If LOTS of road miles and long term vehicle in your fleet, the diesel is benefit.

If you are parking this thing for 50 wks a yr and driving to the beach (or short trips), gas will do.

Diesel will probably have the best resale and longevity. Cummins with allison Tranny is probably the most bullet-proof (depending on previous use and maint).

Some folk do not like diesel smell. If that is you, don't get one.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Are you feeling ok?

you're actually saying good things about gassers?

"stink"
It's gone way down with the ULSD fuel.
Unless you keep your head in front of the tail pipe it really isn't a issue.




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Some folk do not like diesel smell. If that is you, don't get one.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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The word from my son who is a mechanic and owns a diesel pickup for himself:

A diesel engine will last forever if you treat it right. 100,000 miles is barely broken in. For no explicable reason, diesel fuel now costs more than gasoline.

However, congress has enacted a law removing ????? (I don't remember what it is) and that ????? was what kept the engine lubricated, so it could be that trouble is coming down the road for diesel engines. My son has a little bottle of additive that he puts into the tank every time he fills up, to replace the stuff that has been removed.

He prefers cummins engines, both in his pickup and in his tractor/trailer.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:08 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I have an additional suggestion. Before buying, go down to the mechanics that work on that model and ask them how often they will see one in the shop and how easy it is to work on.

If you are buying a gasoline engine, make sure the spark plugs are accessible without removing the body from the vehicle. or your tuneups will require you to take out a mortgage on the house in order to pay for them.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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ULSD ultra low sulfur diesel.
15ppm max. most fuel is closer to 8-9 ppm as 15 is a max.
The oil industry has told congress and the EPA that 8-9 ppm is going to be all they will/can remove.

Sulfur was never a lube, no matter what you read.
Source, the American petroleum institute.


When they remove the sulfur the lubricity is also removed from the fuel.
They put additives back into the fuel to bring the lubricity back up.

Every engine manufacturer says NO additives of any kind are needed.

can you use additives sure.
it's an insurance policy for gelling in the winter, water, and some added (lubricity if you think it's necessary(if it makes you sleep better at night, lol).

next what additives , use only additives approved for diesels and do not use any alcohol ie IPA



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The word from my son who is a mechanic and owns a diesel pickup for himself:

A diesel engine will last forever if you treat it right. 100,000 miles is barely broken in. For no explicable reason, diesel fuel now costs more than gasoline.

However, congress has enacted a law removing ????? (I don't remember what it is) and that ????? was what kept the engine lubricated, so it could be that trouble is coming down the road for diesel engines. My son has a little bottle of additive that he puts into the tank every time he fills up, to replace the stuff that has been removed.

He prefers cummins engines, both in his pickup and in his tractor/trailer.
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Old 02-25-2013, 10:52 AM
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Anti gel additive is all I use, and that's only if I can't find winter blend fuel.. My Cummins has 190K and hasn't skipped a beat. (98.5 2500 Ram carrying a Hallmark pop-up camper)
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Are you feeling ok?

you're actually saying good things about gassers?

"stink"
....
I am always running up against those who complain about diesel smell, especially in motorhomes. So... I suggest if it bothers them, NOT to bring the additional strife to their life. Also there are those who read how diesel exhaust of school buses is killing kids like flies... so... they are best not availed to the wonderful world of an oil burner.

Now for me.... I was weaned on the smoke stack of a tractor, and have to have a good snort of unburnt diesel exhaust just to get me going in the morning (I don't do coffee.... can't stand the smell ). I'm sure I will die any day from my diesel exposure and I also grew up UNDER power lines and on Uranium Rich Colorado Soil... I'm doomed (but I'm insured).

For additives, (needed due to lose of lubricity in removing sulfur, and the additional chemicals added to diesel for emission reduction (?)

I use Stanadyne, or Redline, or Amsoil fuel treatments in my Dino diesels. I burns me up to have a leaky $600 injection pump on my $35 car. So... I'm currently making a Bosch test stand / pump tester contraption for my metal lathe.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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If I get a class A either new or used what fuel type engine is my best choice?Seems price is about the same now a days for the fuel.Also what Brand is the best rated on a deisel engine as far as repair history?

I think it was Stealth that basically said it depends on how you plan to use it. You've gotta provide a little info if you want answers that mean anything.
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