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Old 10-10-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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Need you help!

I know those questions have been asked many times here. Figure I would ask them in one post.

I have a 2013 Ford F150 5L (3.73), SuperCrew Cab, Tow Package. Towing capacity is around 9000lbs.

Me and my wife would like to travel in Canada and US, national parks, camping grounds, etc!

My favorite model is the Rear Living, with the big window in the back, the two chairs! Both fifth wheels and trailers have those models. Price is not an issue, the only thing that worries my is the weigth.

Almost everybody we know is telling to go with the Fifth Wheel, but most of them weight around 7000lbs (dry weight), which could go up to more than 8000lbs when loaded! Not sure I want to take the chance to carry this much with my F150.

As for trailers, youi have RL types around 5000lbs, which is more what I'm looking for.

My questions :

Would you go with a Fifth Wheel?

Is there Fifth Wheels around 5000lbs? minimum 24 feet (inside)

Is it better with a trailer?

What's the maximum for the F150, in your opinion, when you go in long trips!

Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Great Plains
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For pulling a 5th wheel is better, not prone to sway and easier pulling and handling. Bumper pulls (travel trailers) can sway. I see f150s pulling smaller gooseneck stock trailers and smaller 5th wheel campers. IMO, I would get a 3/4 for safety margin. You can pull it ok, but stopping and handling are major factors to consider.
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:03 PM
 
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Thanks for your comment!
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:12 AM
 
Location: GOVERNMENT of TRAITORS & NAZIS
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We went to a 5er and love it compared to similar sized bumper pull trailer. We have a Dodge 2500 with 3500 suspension and for towing--the 5th wheel is so much better. Plus the 5er has more room top to bottom and the two slides make it even rommier.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:34 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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I know those questions have been asked many times here.
Figure I would ask them in one post.

You're asking two very different questions.

1) Would you go with a Fifth Wheel?
2) What's the maximum for the F150...?

Have you explored what 5er choices you have with YOUR truck?
Next up is how big a truck you'll really need to handle the 5er you really want.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:04 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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An F150 is a half ton truck, isn't it? I'd stick with a very small light trailer.

Do 5th wheels come in "small"? Aren't those always bigger than usual trailers? One step up in size from the bumper pulls?

The 5th wheels are more stable to pull, but they don't come in light weight. They are intended to be movable condos for people who don't want to give up comfort and luxury in order to go camping.

OP, you just bought a brand new truck without sizing it for the trailer that you want.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:25 PM
 
Location: SoCal desert
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Here's an article that should help you search, they give dry weights on lots and lots of 5th wheel models ...

Camper Life
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Old 10-11-2013, 03:27 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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I have a friend that has been using a 1/2T & 18' 5r for 20 yrs. He does lots of backcountry / mtn fishing camping.

it's like the large pics of the 18' on this thread
RV.Net Open Roads Forum: Fifth-Wheels: Shortest 5th wheel or 5th wheel toy hauler

I would not go any heavier than this on a 1/2 T (But prefer to stay under 5,000#)

Jayco Eagle Super Lite Half-Ton FW 26.5RLS
Weight: 6,800 lb
Gvwr: 9,950 lb
Ccc: 3,091 lb
Hitch Weight: 1,435 lb
Ext Length: 29′ 9″
LPG: 14 gal
Freshwater: 48 gal
Gray/Black Water: 32 gal/ 32 gal
MSRP: $30,550
(574) 825-5861, Jayco 2013

BE CAREFUL with drive train, as the rear-end will not be happy about pushing this thing into a difficult camping spot using reverse. Hopefully you have a 4x4 with low range and can distribute the torque to the frt axle. Add a tranny cooler and temp gauge.


So... yes it is possible
Please keep the size and weight down, and the brakes and tires UP.

You will be better to stay in the low altitude flat lands that don't have much wind.
If you want mtns and power, you need a turbo diesel tow vehicle (constant boost / minimal effect of altitude).

I bought my last Turbo Diesel Cummins 4x4 1T for $2500, It gets 17 - 22 mpg empty. 12 mpg towing heavy (~ 30,000# GVW). It runs fine on waste engine oil, kerosene, Jet A, used cooking oil (all are free sources of fuel).
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Wyoming
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Your "towing capacity" may be 9K lbs., but what's the cargo capacity? 5ers distribute more of their weight to the pin than travel trailers, usually about 20% of total weight. Combine that with a hitch (200 lbs. or so), full fuel, passengers and a few things you'll toss in the back, and you'll have more weight than you should carry even with a small 5er. They're also taller than most TTs, so wind resistance will likely be more. Towing a 5er into the wind is going to be a strain.

As much as I prefer 5ers over TTs, if I had to tow with an F150, I'd be towing a TT.

Suggestion: When you trade that truck in, consider an F250 or F350 so you can upgrade to a nice 5er later. In fact, before you trade trucks, look at various 5ers and decide what the next one might be, then buy a truck capable of towing it or a little more.
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: Near Nashville TN
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For pulling a 5th wheel is better, not prone to sway and easier pulling and handling. Bumper pulls (travel trailers) can sway.
Only if you don't use anti-sway bars and a WDH.
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