Has Camping Changed? (diesel, Rialta, campground, generator)
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More radio noise.
Many kids playing unattended
People don't socialize in campground (thanks to satellite TV and internet)
People are 'entitled' to their own camping experience, even if it is detrimental to the other 20-100 campers.
There seem to be more 'crazies' (axe Murderers) residing in campgrounds.
I prefer to 'stealth camp'. I am seldom comfortable in a campground.
I'm 47 and I was a kid I played 'unsupervised' all the time. In fact I think kids are too lorded over these days. I loved to explore and do my own thing.
wild camping is the only real sort of camping, camping on camp sites is for wanna bees and sheeple who cant go without electric hook-ups, showers and flushing toilets. anyway I prefer to be alone when I'm camping not surrounded by a load of urban idiots.
'Sheeple'? That's a little harsh. If I want to hike in remote Glacier Ntl Park I tend to camp close to the trailheads so I can get out faster. In that regard a campsite is only there for me to 'lay my head down'.
How far from where the urban idiots live do you have to go to be shed of them?
I typically camp on either BLM or NFS lands, usually 20+ miles from the pavement, and preferably on high ground where I can see the incoming road, it gives me plenty of warning that a crazy might be coming my way
We do a lot of camping, some remote with no one else and sometimes in fairly crowded areas (Like Glacier NP). It's pretty rare for us to run across a group that is rowdy or disrespectful. Generally people are fairly like minded and tend to want to keep things civilized.
Yabbut - you live and camp in a state otherwise known as Heaven
Yes, it's changed. I used to load up my Chevy Vega hatchback with cooler, tent, and stove and wander around the UP of Michigan in the 1970s and early 80s. That's the only way I could afford to take a vacation back then. The campgrounds I stayed at were quiet, except on 4th of July and Labor Day weekend when getting drunk and rowdy was the order of the day (I stayed home then). Otherwise, people were a lot more respectful of their neighbors and the wilderness.
Now if you want to get the same sort of experience, you need to get out into the back country or go when there's still snow, as mentioned. There are just too many drunks, plus kids are watching loud cartoons on their tablets and staying up all hours.
It's like there's two or three new generations that don't understand the traditional camping experience.
I've been camping in state and national parks and forests for about the last 45 years and haven't noticed a huge change. Yes, once in a while a group can be a bit loud and boisterous, but not intolerably so.
I've never been approached by an ax wielding maniac either. I guess I've just been incredibly lucky?
We normally camp in NFS campgrounds and in national parks/monuments without hookups. A couple decades ago we started avoiding campgrounds that were on lakes, especially if the lakes allowed motor boats. We learned that they pack in the noisiest campers with partying and drinking seemingly the main entertainment. Since then we haven't been troubled by noisy neighbors.
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