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Old 12-30-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Thanks for the clarification. But wouldn't the average yearly temperature of these 2 cities be close despite the overall incomparable climate? Like if Vancouver is cool during the summer and Windsor (Or any city of southern Ontario for that matter) is very hot, and Vancouver is mild during the winter and Windsor is much colder. Wouldn't the overall average annual temperature be close or similar even though the overall climate with seasons, precipitation, etc is different?
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Oakville, ON
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Thanks for the clarification. But wouldn't the average yearly temperature of these 2 cities be close despite the overall incomparable climate? Like if Vancouver is cool during the summer and Windsor (Or any city of southern Ontario for that matter) is very hot, and Vancouver is mild during the winter and Windsor is much colder. Wouldn't the overall average annual temperature be close or similar even though the overall climate with seasons, precipitation, etc is different?
Having lived in BC and Southern Ontario, the weather in general isn't as different as weather snobs in BC would like to believe it is.

Fall/spring weather between the two areas are very similar. Ontario has a much longer, hotter summer with powerful storms towards the end of the season. Conversely a colder and harsher winter. But the vast difference in weather come in very short bursts - and in my experience have generally similar weather.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Thanks for the clarification. But wouldn't the average yearly temperature of these 2 cities be close despite the overall incomparable climate? Like if Vancouver is cool during the summer and Windsor (Or any city of southern Ontario for that matter) is very hot, and Vancouver is mild during the winter and Windsor is much colder. Wouldn't the overall average annual temperature be close or similar even though the overall climate with seasons, precipitation, etc is different?
Average annual high for both cities: 14C

Average annual lows are 3C warmer for Vancouver. This is because winter lows for Windsor are much colder I guess.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:07 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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The summers are much hotter in Windsor, not much argument there. Think Kelowna's summer temps but with humidity as well! Vancouver is a 12 month a year golfing city where Windsor is a 9-10 months a year golfing city... Golf courses generally shut down in early December and open up again in March in Windsor. This is much better than anywhere else in Canada outside the Lower Mainland (even better than London or Sarnia) but not as good as Vancouver and the southern side of Vancouver Island.

The best season in both Vancouver and Windsor are definitely the spring and fall. Both cities I would say have the longest and mildest spring/fall in Canada. Both cities are unique in Canada in that November snow is almost unheard of.

Winters are milder overall in Vancouver but Windsor does experience "Vancouver style winter weather" for over 1/2 of its winter days... The difference is that the cold air will swoop down every so often in Windsor bringing snow and sub-zero weather. Temps below -10C are rare in Windsor and happen a few times a winter. Windsor is too warm most winters for skating on ponds and such.

Vancouver gardeners are starting to plant some of the hardier palm trees (such as Chinese Fan Palm) around the city though. Gardeners in Windsor who grow palms need to wrap up those trees for 3 months of winter. Gardeners in Windsor have been successful growing fig trees and prickly pear cactus and such... No way that fig trees could grow outdoors anywhere else in Canada but Vancouver/Victoria or Windsor.

Windsor is definitely the warmest city with the least amount of snow in Eastern Canada. Even London, ON 150km or so away experiences a least 2x the snow that Windsor does.

Like was mentioned, the high temperatures overall for the year are similar, it is the occasional deep cold snaps in Windsor that are the difference between Windsor and Vancouver/Victoria.

http://planthardiness.gc.ca/ - Canada Plant Hardiness Zone Map shows the Windsor/Essex County area as Zone 7a while Vancouver/Lower Mainland as Zone 8a.

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Old 01-15-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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No way that fig trees could grow outdoors anywhere else in Canada but Vancouver/Victoria or Windsor.
When I lived in Osoyoos an Iranian neighbour grew three happy, healthy fig trees.

Figs are a rarity in the Okanagan versus other fruit trees, but they seem to do fine there.

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Old 01-15-2012, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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When I lived in Osoyoos an Iranian neighbour grew three happy, healthy fig trees.

Figs are a rarity in the Okanagan versus other fruit trees, but they seem to do fine there.
Osoyoos is a special case... It is what they call a "pocket desert" and is known for its hot summers. Osoyoos in fact is right at the upper limit of the Sonoran Desert.

I am mistaken then, Osoyoos, Windsor/Essex County, Lower Mainland and South Vancouver Island are Canada's "tropical spots."
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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According to Wikipedia, Windsor, Vancouver and Kelowna all have the same yearly average high at 14 degrees. So all of them are pretty much are equally warm temperature wise overall in the year so Vancouver is not warmer than them. So much for the "Vancouver is the mildest city in Canada" myth.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:11 PM
 
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According to Wikipedia, Windsor, Vancouver and Kelowna all have the same yearly average high at 14 degrees. So all of them are pretty much are equally warm temperature wise overall in the year so Vancouver is not warmer than them. So much for the "Vancouver is the mildest city in Canada" myth.
Vancouver's renown as a warm(er) Canadian city is really related to the (relative) lack of winter cold there. People don't think of the summer because nice summers are generally a given in most parts of Canada. Mild winters are not.
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Old 06-26-2012, 03:16 PM
 
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Vancouver's renown as a warm(er) Canadian city is really related to the (relative) lack of winter cold there. People don't think of the summer because nice summers are generally a given in most parts of Canada. Mild winters are not.
That is true I guess
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Old Toronto, Canada
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According to Wikipedia, Windsor, Vancouver and Kelowna all have the same yearly average high at 14 degrees. So all of them are pretty much are equally warm temperature wise overall in the year so Vancouver is not warmer than them. So much for the "Vancouver is the mildest city in Canada" myth.
mild means non-extreme. doesn't necessarily mean "warm".
In that sense, it is pretty accurate to say Vancouver is the mildest city in Canada. well at least one of them.

Nobody says Vancouver has the best weather in Canada (it doesn't). But you can't deny it is mild. For example today, Windsor is something around 28C, while Vancouver is below 20C.
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