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Old 02-07-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: British Columbia ♥ 🍁 ♥
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I don't relish thinking about it either, and I see why it upsets you, but I can also see why entertaining the real world consequences might be of interest to someone. I think I'll leave this one alone for awhile.
Agreed, probably a good idea for me to leave this one alone for awhile too. But perhaps not such a bad idea at some point to discuss exactly what the real world consequences of such an annexation would mean to Canada. It wouldn't be good and perhaps those consequences are something that Canadians do need to think about.

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Old 02-07-2012, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Well, I mean the United States was going invade and conquer Canada as late as 1940 as detailed by the US War Plan Red. Only WWII got in the way of that and put those plans on hold.

If, God forbid, the US does take over Canada, I think it's only prudent that Canada be able to preserve itself as a nation, rather than become a simple state of America.

I don't think a voluntary union with the US would benefit Canada either, but if political pressure came to bear making a voluntary union involuntary, I think autonomy is a better option for Canadians than simple statehood.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I just have to say how preposterous a thread. The US is failing as a republic and you think Canada would want to join?
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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I just have to say how preposterous a thread. The US is failing as a republic and you think Canada would want to join?
Very true - to the OP's credit, he did say "If Canada lost its senses and decided to join the United States,"....
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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Monty Python could have made a a whole flying circus around this one!
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I'll tell you truely, I can't think of a worse nightmare than being part of the USA. Our government, customs, laws, history and just so many other things are in direct contradiction of EVERYTHING American.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:14 PM
 
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Don't worry--Canada doesn't have to join the U.S. in any way. Canada seems to be becoming more like the U.S. every year. Just look at your politics. Conservatives have pretty much destroyed much of what was good in the U.S.--infringing on individual liberties, starting wars without the backbone to pay for them, and working hand-in-hand with the corporate greed ethic to destroy our environment. Heck, I used to admire Canada for its seemingly greater interest in protecting its environment and looking out for its citizens...but it seems both countries are in race to the bottom lately. Granted, I don't think it's as bad in Canada as it is in the U.S., but you have to watch out--it could happen quicker than you think! Just a thought from someone south of the border (actually, I'm north and west of Windsor, Ontario).

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Old 02-09-2012, 07:19 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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I have no idea what the intentions of the OP were when starting this topic, but I never took in an underhanded way like many of the respondents.

This will never happen in our lifetime and I really do not think it would be to the benefit of either Nation. I do find it interesting though how many people responding still view the US as declining in comparison to Canada. Have any of you followed the economic trends over the last 2 quarters of 2011?

In Canada the unemployment rate has increased from 7.1% to 7.6% over the last quarter, with lethargic job growth. The Canadian GDP growth in November of receded by 0.1% and grew by only 0.9% in December. Personal wealth declined by 0.4% in the 4th quarter 2011.

Conversely the US unemployment rate has dropped from 9.4% to 8.3% in the past 2 quarters of 2011. Unemployment applications in January hit a 4 year low. GDP Growth was 1.8% in the 3rd quarter and 2.8% in the 4th quarter. Personal wealth also grew by 0.5% in the 4th quarter of 2011.

(Canada Unemployment Rate)
(United States Unemployment Rate)

If you even remotely care about economic trends, then the doom and gloom projections should be aimed at Canada, not the US.
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I've been waiting for a while to react to this one and my reaction has not changed: I don't really see the advantage for either country. They have a pretty good (sometimes symbiotic) relationship with each other which tends to be mutually beneficial, yet each country is also free to do its own thing.

I also have never seen the logic of poorer country X joining richer country Y just because Y happens to be richer at the moment.

Then, if someday X becomes richer than Y, what do you do?

Bottom line: countries aren't formed and shouldn't be formed for financial reasons.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:41 AM
 
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the only good thing would be Canadians could now move south for warmer weather without visa's, thats about it.
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