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Old 02-12-2012, 11:02 PM
 
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Harper is selling canada and all its resources to china foe a few panda bears
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Ka-nah-da
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Harper is selling canada and all its resources to china foe a few panda bears
Don't forget that he also plays the part of lap dog to Obama.
Harper has been a douche since day one, yet people voted him in on more than one occasion.....
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:26 PM
 
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A PM is diversifying your economy away from being 95% reliant on the faltering US economy, and you're still complaining? China's been buying Australia's minerals for quite some time now, and look how much better Australia's economy weather the GFC than any other western nation's did.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:15 AM
 
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I think posts # 1 and # 2 are funny.

#1 is trolling and # 2 took the bait hook, line and sinker.

LOL.

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Old 02-13-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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No way, if Harper was Obama's lap dog, he would've followed Obama's direction to delay the pipeline until after the American election. Canadian politics can't be held at bay by American politics.

And Harper isn't selling Canada and "all" its resources, most of its resources either stay in Canada, or are traded with the US. So depriving the US of about 2-5% of Canadian resources to be allocated to the People's Republic of China isn't selling all the resources.

Now if there was a PRC-CAN free trade deal, it might be different
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:32 AM
 
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And Harper isn't selling Canada and "all" its resources, most of its resources either stay in Canada, or are traded with the US. So depriving the US of about 2-5% of Canadian resources to be allocated to the People's Republic of China isn't selling all the resources.

Now if there was a PRC-CAN free trade deal, it might be different
my qualm isn;t with him selling our resources to China, it's with him stripping Canada of resources we will need, oil sands, fracking....what will our future have once this is used up? You know about Canadian lumber, the highest grade goes to Asia, they won't except the low grade lumber (understandable), but who gets the low grade lumber...Canada does.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:33 AM
 
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I don't mind us selling to China if they can give us a better price (which they can). I just want the pipeline to go somewhere safer like Prince Rupert instead of Kitimat, even if it costs a few extra bucks to do it. But a free trade deal could benefit us, and not just through oil sales, but with our other exports as well (wine, beef, grain, timber, airplanes, etc.) This is about trade, they're already free to buy up our real estate and businesses, (or, to look at it another way, provide the capital to create businesses) and this doesn't make it any easier than it already is.
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:34 AM
 
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I think posts # 1 and # 2 are funny.

#1 is trolling and # 2 took the bait hook, line and sinker.

LOL.

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No poster number 2 was being sarcastic....it's just her sense of humour
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:54 AM
 
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No way, if Harper was Obama's lap dog, he would've followed Obama's direction to delay the pipeline until after the American election. Canadian politics can't be held at bay by American politics.
I totally agree with you that Canadian government (not politics) can't be held at bay by American politics. And it isn't being held at bay. Canada and the Canadian government is doing as it pleases in its own best interests.

To be fair to President Obama one thing needs to be pointed out about Obama and the delay in the KeystoneXL pipeline. The delay in the pipeline has nothing to do with the impending American election and nothing to do with what Obama wants. He never suggested to anybody that the pipeline should be delayed until after the American election. He's not in a position to make such a suggestion.

It was not and still is not Obama's decision to make, or to say yea or nay to the pipeline. It was and still is the decision of the US State Department to say yea or nay. The State Department told the president that they won't approve it until TransCanada submits a new route for the pipeline around the Nebraska Sandhills and the Ogallala aquifer because the most recently proposed route was "not in the safe interests of the American people". Their words, not mine. The State Department told Obama no and Obama told America that the State Department said no and that he is following their recommendations. Obama has no choice in the matter.

TransCanada has already agreed to submit a new proposal with a route for the pipeline that will bypass the Sandhills and the Ogallala. The State Department has said that if the new route proposal is suitable then the State Department will approve it. If and when that happens then the State Department will tell the president their decision and then the president will announce the decision of the State Department.

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Old 02-13-2012, 01:09 AM
 
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my qualm isn;t with him selling our resources to China, it's with him stripping Canada of resources we will need, oil sands, fracking....what will our future have once this is used up? You know about Canadian lumber, the highest grade goes to Asia, they won't except the low grade lumber (understandable), but who gets the low grade lumber...Canada does.
Don't feed into all the propoganda. Harper (or any other Prime Minister for that matter) cannot and will not strip Canada of its resources. It's not solely up to the Prime Minister to make such decisions. The Premiers of each of the provinces also have a say in the matter of their respective province's resources, and the people of each province and of all of Canada have a say.

Canada as a whole wants to conserve resources and is looking forward to the future. Our resources are not going to get stripped or used up indiscriminately for the sake of capitalism. Did you know that last year the provincial Premiers all passed a new bill that conserves Canadian fresh water, (Canada's very greatest resource) and that it cannot ever be capitalized on by non-Canadian or Canadian corporate businesses or be sold in bulk outside of Canada? That went into effect last year.

Don't worry too much about Canada getting low grade lumber. We have all we need and we keep enough high grade lumber for our own selves. Plus we have the added bonus of it being a renewable resource that we can keep on growing as long as we continue to manage it responsibly. Canada has been and continues to manage our lumber responsibly.

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