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Old 03-04-2012, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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It's hard to fathom what path of miscommunication forced heritage airplanes, including an Avro Arrow replica, a DHC-2 Beaver and the world's oldest DHC-1 Chipmunk, outside of the Canadian Air and Space Museum on Sept. 20, 2011.



According to the board of directors who run the museum, they were told by personnel they had to get the artifacts out of the Downsview Park facility, north of Toronto, by the end of the day or risk losing everything inside.
Source: Saving History, The Canadian Air and Space Museum Teeters - SpaceRef Canada


The CF-105 Avro Arrow - A Tribute - YouTube
Man always wanted to see the full size CF-105 Avro Aero Replica and it was huge part Canadian history and a great sense of national pride and it is still sad the destryed them...

I hope they find a new spot for the museum to move to our even more of our Aviation History will be lost.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:07 AM
 
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That was a darn nice museum,a shame a greedy landlord doubles the rent and not enough people visit the place to keep it going.Personally i thought the government owned and financed the whole operation .
This is the way its going these days as people get more and more tired of paying taxes to support such historical and cultural programs.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:12 PM
 
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Hamilton has a war plane heritage museum, they should
display them there, atleast the Avro Arrow.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:23 AM
 
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Definitely the Arrow. Would be tragic to lose that piece of Canadian history!
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:05 AM
 
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This is typical of a country that relies upon immigration to sustain it's expansion rate, as most, if not all, of the immigrees arrive today not caring one wit for our past history or culture! Most are merely changing countries as you or I would change our choice of neighbourhood.

They are primarily concerned with their priorities of escaping repressive or lacklustre lifestyles elsewhere, providing a better lifestyle for their family and retaining their culture first and foremost with the culture and history of their adoptive country taking a poor fourth place in that list.

Expecting these people to contribute to the memorializing of anything historicly Canadian is like asking them to donate to a charity for millionaires.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:35 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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This is typical of a country that relies upon immigration to sustain it's expansion rate, as most, if not all, of the immigrees arrive today not caring one wit for our past history or culture! Most are merely changing countries as you or I would change our choice of neighbourhood.

They are primarily concerned with their priorities of escaping repressive or lacklustre lifestyles elsewhere, providing a better lifestyle for their family and retaining their culture first and foremost with the culture and history of their adoptive country taking a poor fourth place in that list.

Expecting these people to contribute to the memorializing of anything historicly Canadian is like asking them to donate to a charity for millionaires.
I wish I could give you rep for that post! Great post!

Sounds like your describing much of our (US) current batch of immigrants as well. All about themselves, not one iota for the US as a nation, it's history, culture, traditions, etc.
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Old 03-06-2012, 08:43 AM
 
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I think there's still plenty of Canadians around to cherish their own history, and I disagree that most immigrants don't care about Canadian history. The last time I went to a Canada Day celebration in Toronto, I saw lots of people from different ethnic backgrounds.
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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You are of course free to disagree but, where is Downsview Airbase located?
Why is it, you suppose, that area does not get even an honourable mention in any Ontario tourism literature?
Why is it, you suppose, the museum being located right in the heart of a thriving metropolis of dense population could not support itself through the local population visiting it?


Could any of those answers possibly be related to cultures other than the traditional Canadians interested in our history being clustered in and around that area not giving a rat's patoot for anything culturally or historicly Canadian . . . .???

My surmisal is: there are not enough "traditional" Canadians, who cherish their own history, in that area to support the museum and further; not enough of any culture outside of those inhabiting the area that would even venture there by choice to visit or support the museum.

Sorry but that's the way I see it. Moving it anywhere would be of benefit.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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Are we talking about this place?=
Canada Aviation and Space Museum – Musée de l’aviation et de l’espace du Canada

or some smaller more obscure air museum or a storage warehouse for some of the unused exhibits....
I dont think the Canadian Aviation and Space Museum is in Downsview, i've been to the museum several times and there was no mention of the location being in Downsview.

Just noticed i'm talking about the museum in Ottawa and not the Museum in Toronto..
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I think it is useless to drag immigrants into this matter - the bottom line of this topics is, that this is a very unfortunate news for every tech savy Torontonian.
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