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Old 03-21-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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The principal difference is that the US is run by and for the wealthy, be they corporations or individuals. If you don't have wealth, you don't matter in the US anymore.
So long as there is one person, one vote, every voter matters. It's just weird that so many seem to be bamboozled into voting against their interests.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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It's just weird that so many seem to be bamboozled into voting against their interests.
Exactly.

America runs on jingoism, not rationality. "Keep the government out of my business." drives those voters.

But they have no understanding of what government actually does.

And so, they're getting their wish. God help them.
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Old 03-23-2012, 02:09 AM
 
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Your point about median makes sense - I am sure the USA has a much higher millionaire count per capita, which drives up the "average" - median is much more representative of the average household.
Not to break up this little hatefest with some facts, but that hellhole to the south ALSO has a larger median household income according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Median household income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-23-2012, 03:53 AM
 
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Not to break up this little hatefest with some facts, but that hellhole to the south ALSO has a larger median household income according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

Median household income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hmmm...this 2004 chart puts Canada slightly higher for mean equivalized disposable household income - your chart had figures from 2007. Wonder what actual rates in 2012 are?

Household income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 03-23-2012, 10:12 AM
 
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Hmmm...this 2004 chart puts Canada slightly higher for mean equivalized disposable household income - your chart had figures from 2007. Wonder what actual rates in 2012 are?

Household income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I think you're looking at the wrong column here (NCU?). The US is higher by about US$5.5k (mean) or US$3.5k (median) in that link.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:12 PM
 
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I think you're looking at the wrong column here (NCU?). The US is higher by about US$5.5k (mean) or US$3.5k (median) in that link.
Yep - wrong one!

Check out their little "better life index" - it's really neat. I guess money isn't everything. Canada and Australia come out tops.

OECD
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Hougary, Texberta
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Yep - wrong one!

I guess money isn't everything.

OECD
The only people that say this are people that have it.
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Old 03-23-2012, 01:35 PM
 
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The only people that say this are people that have it.
There may be some truth to that.
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Old 03-24-2012, 08:30 PM
 
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Social Issues are to important to some voters mainly Evangelical Christians or as they call themselves Value Voters, tend to put social issues in top priority over candidates which hurt Mitt Romney in the 2008 primary because of dear hes a MORMON. But now that the economy is worse i think you see less emphasis on it but now those folks are sticking behind Santorum but either they now have the economy as top issue or just not as many of them voting now. But yes social issues are a huge deal in American politics when the economy isn't a nightmare that it is now which is why Romney is in the lead in the 2012 primary as a MORMON.
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