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Old 05-29-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Well, that is actually untrue, I'd argue it's the least anti-American province. English Canadians are culturally threatened by the US and have a sort of a passive aggressive attitude towards America and Americans. A combination of an inferiority and superiority complex, coupled with centuries of territorial rivalry in the expansion West, proxy wars, real wars, and fears of invasion mean English Canadians are pre-disposed to look negatively upon the US. It's a way of preserving and asserting independence. French Quebeckers, and to some lesser degree English Quebeckers for complex reasons I'm not going to get into, are more confident of their own identity and so less threatened by America. In my experience, Quebeckers have a great appreciation for, and interest in, the culture of the USA and in particular the North East to which the province has many historic ties. The confusion arises because, as English Canada feels threatened by American culture, French Canada feels threatened by English Canadian culture, in particular by the English language. Americans speak English, but French Quebeckers have nothing against them. At the same time, Quebec is also much farther to the left than any American state and Quebeckers tend to be pacifists (much like modern day English Canadians), so often disagree with US politics. But on the whole, I still feel Quebec is the part of Canada that is least hostile to the US, or at least certainly less than Ontario.
This is fine and all, but when you say english canadians, say white ontarian's. Westerners atlantic canadians are generally are pretty neutral, some love it others hate it, it's ontarians they have trouble with. In newfoundland, america, is just like this place you only ever here or see in movies or television. Sure people go there, but just as many or if not far more goto europe, middle east asia etc. Aside from trips to florida which is just a tourist trap and the ocaional border drive through, america, only exists on a screen.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Yes - but they don't tend to have that distinctively American biker look

http://rhianonbader.files.wordpress....-web.jpg?w=720
Exactamundo!
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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This is fine and all, but when you say english canadians, say white ontarian's. Westerners atlantic canadians are generally are pretty neutral, some love it others hate it, it's ontarians they have trouble with. In newfoundland, america, is just like this place you only ever here or see in movies or television. Sure people go there, but just as many or if not far more goto europe, middle east asia etc. Aside from trips to florida which is just a tourist trap and the ocaional border drive through, america, only exists on a screen.
Surely you can't be serious.
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Mississippi Delta!
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Yes - but they don't tend to have that distinctively American biker look

http://rhianonbader.files.wordpress....-web.jpg?w=720
The only thing I see lacking among Canadian biker veterans is long hair!
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Old 05-30-2012, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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The only thing I see lacking among Canadian biker veterans is long hair!
There is more to it than that.

The Canadian guy might live somewhere like this:

http://www.realtysource.com/listing_...sold_image.jpg

The American version often lives somewhere like this:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HYqfgiKsl0...ag%2Bhouse.jpg

Not saying all Americans are like this (far from it), but for some reason the American prototype we are describing is something you rarely see in Canada.

I am not even sure that my local hardware stores even stock anything resembling the stern "keep out" signs, and I can't remember the last time I saw one (or even a softer no trespassing sign) on a private residence in this part of the world.
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Old 05-30-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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The only thing I see lacking among Canadian biker veterans is long hair!
What you rarely see in Canada are those ZZ top beards LOL
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:00 PM
 
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Surely you can't be serious.
Not at all, st john's is two(three anywhere interesting) days travel from the border. That means if were leaving the country, it's flying somewhere warm i.e. Florida/cuba, or for work in a far away place.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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Not at all, st john's is two(three anywhere interesting) days travel from the border. That means if were leaving the country, it's flying somewhere warm i.e. Florida/cuba, or for work in a far away place.
You said people in NL go to Europe, the Middle East and Asia as much if not more than to the U.S. This is simply not true.

The U.S. is a big place - when I think of Canadians travelling to the U.S. I am not necessarily talking about Bangor, Maine and Sweetgrass, Montana.

PS - At last check Florida was still part of the United States.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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You said people in NL go to Europe, the Middle East and Asia as much if not more than to the U.S. This is simply not true.

The U.S. is a big place - when I think of Canadians travelling to the U.S. I am not necessarily talking about Bangor, Maine and Sweetgrass, Montana.

PS - At last check Florida was still part of the United States.
I said except florida, and this is for newfies in st john's. Maybe it's an age group thing, but I have tons of friends, that have gone to europe, worked in qatar, roommates that lived in germany, etc. Point is I'd have to think a while about anyone I know that's been anywhere besides florida. My main point is, I think of losts of reasons why people I know would goto europe or wherever. But I can't think of one reason why anyone would goto the us, other than going to a resort in florida, but it's just as often cuba, or domincan republic.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I said except florida, and this is for newfies in st john's. Maybe it's an age group thing, but I have tons of friends, that have gone to europe, worked in qatar, roommates that lived in germany, etc. Point is I'd have to think a while about anyone I know that's been anywhere besides florida. My main point is, I think of losts of reasons why people I know would goto europe or wherever. But I can't think of one reason why anyone would goto the us, other than going to a resort in florida, but it's just as often cuba, or domincan republic.
You did say Florida, sorry about that.

That said, I am not a rah-rah-rah pro-American person, but there are *tons* of things to see in the U.S. besides Florida: New York, Boston, New England in general, Savannah, New Orleans, Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, Santa Fe, etc.

Also, if there was that much interest in crossing the ocean, St. John's would have maby more direct flights than it has at the moment.

I will agree about Cuba and Dominican Republic, and probably Mexico as well.

Charm el-Cheikh, Torremolinos and St-Tropez, probably not so much...
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