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Old 06-10-2012, 07:39 PM
 
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No language is inherently limiting. Languages are ''limited'' in their use (usually by ''others'') but are not limiting per se. Your people's language was lost because they were dominated by English speakers, who imposed their language and ''limited'' the use of their original language, which in turn made the people view it as ''limiting''.
As the language of a small isolated country spoken mainly in rural towns and villages, yes, it was limiting. I'm a functionalist: in my estimation, the only value of a language is its utility. You can believe what you want, but I know the truth of it -- the old tongue was limiting. Had my people restricted themselves to using only that language, then we wouldn't have become as wildly successful as we are in the modern era. As English has become the international language of business, I'm very happy about this turn of events and I view it as the good fortune of my people to have acquired it as their de facto mother tongue.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:44 PM
 
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Perhaps you should ask people who live on that lingua franca's frontline in southern California, south Texas and south Florida, how they feel about going with the flow linguistically and just letting things happen as they will.
It doesn't matter for it's happening whatever they think about it and it's likely to continuing happening for the foreseeable future. Appealing to the sentiments of linguistic bigots down there won't do much to strengthening any case that might be made on behalf of the Québécois to argue in favour of the draconian language laws that are found on the books in Quebec.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:48 PM
 
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Perhaps you should ask people who live on that lingua franca's frontline in southern California, south Texas and south Florida, how they feel about going with the flow linguistically and just letting things happen as they will.
Lol you have to wonder eh

I donno I'm done with this thread, too often anti french people in canada, make some bizarre statement like language don't matter etc.

It's one thing to say the way things are going is wrong, but when your only solution is to suggest some foolish concept of just letting things run it's course I have to giggle inside.

If you wanna suggest realistic ways of how things could be different I'm all ears, but if your just gonna stick to french don't matter this is a waste of time.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:54 PM
 
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Lol you have to wonder eh

I donno I'm done with this thread, too often anti french people in canada, make some bizarre statement like language don't matter etc.

It's one thing to say the way things are going is wrong, but when your only solution is to suggest some foolish concept of just letting things run it's course I have to giggle inside.

If you wanna suggest realistic ways of how things could be different I'm all ears, but if your just gonna stick to french don't matter this is a waste of time.
Better luck next time.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:42 AM
 
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... won't do much to strengthening any case ....
... won't do much to strengthen any case ....
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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Lol you have to wonder eh

I donno I'm done with this thread, too often anti french people in canada, make some bizarre statement like language don't matter etc.

It's one thing to say the way things are going is wrong, but when your only solution is to suggest some foolish concept of just letting things run it's course I have to giggle inside.

If you wanna suggest realistic ways of how things could be different I'm all ears, but if your just gonna stick to french don't matter this is a waste of time.
At least there are a few people here like you who realize how hyperbolic and over the top some of the crap posted on here is.
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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As the language of a small isolated country spoken mainly in rural towns and villages, yes, it was limiting. I'm a functionalist: in my estimation, the only value of a language is its utility. You can believe what you want, but I know the truth of it -- the old tongue was limiting. Had my people restricted themselves to using only that language, then we wouldn't have become as wildly successful as we are in the modern era. As English has become the international language of business, I'm very happy about this turn of events and I view it as the good fortune of my people to have acquired it as their de facto mother tongue.
Limiting like Danish? Swedish? Dutch? Norwegian? Finnish? Slovenian?
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Old 06-11-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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Limiting like Danish? Swedish? Dutch? Norwegian? Finnish? Slovenian?
It was limiting and it remains limiting. I'll just leave it at that.
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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It was limiting and it remains limiting. I'll just leave it at that.
You are entitled to your opinion, but there is a "the king is dead. long live the king!" aspect to your view.

You think the way things unfolded is for the better simply because that's what you know.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:39 AM
 
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You are entitled to your opinion, but there is a "the king is dead. long live the king!" aspect to your view.

You think the way things unfolded is for the better simply because that's what you know.
Meh really though, I got no problem with extreme views, or views that are obviously unpopular, but atleast admit to it.

In my personal view, billingualism in this country should be mandatory, whether it be french, cree, mandarin, I don't care, but I get this view isn't common, and I don't pretend it is.

But believing in the protection of a language by it's people it pretty common anywhere in a democracy, it's not extreme, and pretty much a given anywhere at all.
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