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Old 06-21-2012, 01:09 PM
 
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Heinrich7: Wait for it, wait for it; you are about to be dissabused of your paticularly incorrect positions comparing Canada to the U.S. of A on everything from Taxes to Freedoms.

I would also venture some, if not most, of your forthcoming education will be coming from south of the 49th.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:53 PM
 
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Heinrich7: Wait for it, wait for it; you are about to be dissabused of your paticularly incorrect positions comparing Canada to the U.S. of A on everything from Taxes to Freedoms.

I would also venture some, if not most, of your forthcoming education will be coming from south of the 49th.
Truth of the matter is the US is not perfect either, But at least in the states it's a less centralized Government, where States can refuse all laws they find unjust. Canada that is not the case, We have a more centralized government then Decentralized. In Canada if Harper or Martin wanted to pass a law everyone has to take the kick in the rear.

It is true Ontario and Quebec held the Western Provinces up a few decades back. But now the East is just taking in resource and not repaying the West.

If the West breaks, They're mentality is that We can finally keep the money in our borders. And not have to give it too Quebec/Ontario.

The Maritimes have the same mindset of paying and not getting enough back.

I feel what Canada needs is a more Decentralized Country. But that could take its toll too. For one the RCMP may be kicked out of some provinces for example. And Laws would become more balanced but could also be abused. I also feel Decentralization may lead to more independent movement.

I just know that if Quebec Secedes Ontario is going to throw a fit, They've been trying to appease Quebec for a century. If they up and left it wouldn't turn out great. And then the Domino effect could come into place and the West leaves.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Truth of the matter is the US is not perfect either, But at least in the states it's a less centralized Government, where States can refuse all laws they find unjust. Canada that is not the case, We have a more centralized government then Decentralized. In Canada if Harper or Martin wanted to pass a law everyone has to take the kick in the rear.
This is not entirely accurate. The federal government in the U.S. has ways of getting recalcitrant states to comply with its laws. For example, when it wanted to impose a nation-wide speed limit, it linked highway funding to state compliance with the national speed limit law.

In Canada, we have the notwithstanding clause in the Constitution. You should read about it if you've never heard about it.

And I would be surprised if an American state could pass (and maintain for 35 years) something as unpopular (in the rest of the country anyway) like Quebec's Bill 101.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Nesconset, NY
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I have read some articles that have led me to conclude that Quebec wants special treatment from the rest of Canada. I have read they are heavily subsidized although the province has plenty of wealth. As for those Quebeckers who talk about "sovereignty", do they really want independence or more of the same preferential treatment they have already been getting? Of course, French Canadians were discriminated against in the past, but they were never enslaved or subject to conquest or mass murder like some people in the United States.
For one thing, I would guess, is to be referred to as Quebecois.
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